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Juan Foyth

Gutter Boy said:
I'm not sure how comparing anyone to John Stones puts them in a favourable light.
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John Stones has a huge amount of talent. He just needs to add composure and decision making.... Both should improve as he gains more experience (but it is not guaranteed). His price was of course far too high considering he is currently 'potential' as opposed to being anywhere near the finished article, but it is clear that he has lots of good attributes and the bad ones should be eliminated via good coaching.
 
Finney Is Back said:
John Stones has a huge amount of talent. He just needs to add composure and decision making.... Both should improve as he gains more experience (but it is not guaranteed). His price was of course far too high considering he is currently 'potential' as opposed to being anywhere near the finished article, but it is clear that he has lots of good attributes and the bad ones should be eliminated via good coaching.
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Pity John Stones can't tackle or read the game
 
Listening to Tim Vickery last night-he said no one in Argentina rates this guy and has a lot to learn before he gets to the required level of a decent premier league defender. I know we buy for the future but does give another slant on this.
Anyway, I have faith in Poch
 
Finney Is Back said:
John Stones has a huge amount of talent. He just needs to add composure and decision making.... Both should improve as he gains more experience (but it is not guaranteed). His price was of course far too high considering he is currently 'potential' as opposed to being anywhere near the finished article, but it is clear that he has lots of good attributes and the bad ones should be eliminated via good coaching.
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I think he's just a tall mediocre midfielder. He doesn't have a defensive bone in his body.
 
spitshine said:
Listening to Tim Vickery last night-he said no one in Argentina rates this guy and has a lot to learn before he gets to the required level of a decent premier league defender. I know we buy for the future but does give another slant on this.
Anyway, I have faith in Poch
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Could be right but someone does rate him and that is poch so let's see
 
spitshine said:
Listening to Tim Vickery last night-he said no one in Argentina rates this guy and has a lot to learn before he gets to the required level of a decent premier league defender. I know we buy for the future but does give another slant on this.
Anyway, I have faith in Poch
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Tim Vickery did think Paulinho would be a smash here though....

Every player is different and more so when they move away
 
Gutter Boy said:
I think he's just a tall mediocre midfielder. He doesn't have a defensive bone in his body.
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What was Eric Dier before he joined us. Pretty mediocre, nothing outstanding defensively or offensively. Poch has made him what he is and there is still room for improvement.
 
Funny all this.

Who would take £60m for Dier?

I can't make my mind up....

Until you see a player playing for a period and in a system, it is hard to say.

The truly great players are a different matter. Maldini and Cruyff would have been good in any team for example
 
Must say I disagree re Stones. Ive seen him make plenty of good defensive plays,that are easily masked because of some errors he has made. People suggesting he is just rated because he is good on the ball are sprouting nonsense, he is simply raw which can be overlooked because of his price tag - something which isnt his fault. In a couple of years I bet he is beginning to develop into the next Rio Ferdinand....
 
Bedfordspurs said:
But he could defend And play football
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He could barely get into the Sporting team.

His talents were raw and that's why we managed to sign him for a nominal fee

Fortunately for him he was very receptive to Pochs methods and settled in quickly.

Who here is watching Foyth on a regular basis? How can anyone make a judgement in his defensive ability without watching him live

I think Its very important to factor in the Poch effect with any potential defender signing.
 
Gutter Boy said:
I'm not sure how comparing anyone to John Stones puts them in a favourable light.
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In terms of confidence and ability on the ball being compared to Stones is obviously a good thing. And we knew how important ball playing centre backs can be.
Gutter Boy said:
I think he's just a tall mediocre midfielder. He doesn't have a defensive bone in his body.
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I just don't get this kind of conclusion for young centre backs. How good would Alderweireld and Vertonghen have looked at 21 or 22 in the PL playing in a fairly exposed back 4?
Gazza said:
Could be right but someone does rate him and that is poch so let's see
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Well. We don't actually know if Pochettino rates him at this point. What we can say is that if we sign him Pochettino almost certainly rates him very highly in deed.
 
braineclipse said:
Well. We don't actually know if Pochettino rates him at this point. What we can say is that if we sign him Pochettino almost certainly rates him very highly in deed.
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To be fair my wife often says the same about me "jumping the gun" however she earns the right for saying so since she was participating.

You however can do one
 
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