parklane1
Tony Galvin
Fair enough we will have to disagree on that, but Tanganga also held Zaha arms down after that when Zaha was ready to start swinging so the intent from Zaha was obvious to see.
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Japhet Tanganga
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Fair enough we will have to disagree on that, but Tanganga also held Zaha arms down after that when Zaha was ready to start swinging so the intent from Zaha was obvious to see.
glasgowspur
Andy Thompson
You do that to lamela you better kill him or hope to fudge you get sent off, because you won't be walking off.
One word, intent. The intent is there and if the player isn't removed neither is the intent.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Harsh red perhaps. He did try to pull out of the tackle, then again of he hadn't it might have been a direct red. Those get given.
Thought he played really well up until the second yellow. Taking the first yellow was fine. Got hit by adrenaline after that situation, then the classic loose touch followed by a tackle that shouldn't have been made. It happens, particularly with younger players.
The way he defended up until that point was a real positive and hopefully he'll be able to build on that when he's back. First game as a CB in the PL and he looked right at home for 58 minutes at least.
Thought he played really well up until the second yellow. Taking the first yellow was fine. Got hit by adrenaline after that situation, then the classic loose touch followed by a tackle that shouldn't have been made. It happens, particularly with younger players.
The way he defended up until that point was a real positive and hopefully he'll be able to build on that when he's back. First game as a CB in the PL and he looked right at home for 58 minutes at least.
thfcsteff
Garth Crooks
What a total lack of professionalism from some of our seniors in that video sequence above…PEH not playing to the whistle (had he, that ball likely doesn’t even reach Zaha) and then once Japhet has gone in and saved Zaha from a red after the foul, where were our two international skippers to guide him through the next crucial minutes? An abdication of responsibility and if I were NES, I’d be as angry about that as anything! Help the lad see through the red mist of the next 10 minutes!
Yiddo
Jack Jull
One of Hojberg’s worst traits is not playing to the whistle. When ever something doesn’t go his way, throw in, foul etc he just stops and moans.
glasgowspur
Andy Thompson
Agree on PEH, totally out of character that.
I don't think Tanganga did much wrong, moss was obviously waiting on a chance to send him off, if it wasn't that challenge it would have been the next. A challenge was always going to have to be made so it was inevitable that he would be sent off at some point.
They were "smarter" than us, but again i don't think it would have made any difference, moss treated our fouls different to theirs. I have no doubt that if Tanganga had done to zaha what zaha did to Tanganga it would have been a straight red card.
Finney Is Back
Andy Thompson
Tanganga lunged in, missed the ball and took the player. Nothing to do with Moss waiting on a chance to send him off at all. The player got himself sent off by making a yellow card tackle having only just received a first yellow for an intentional foul.
I know it's easy to blame the ref when we lose, especially when the ref is one of the poorer ones in the league, however on Saturday the only blame can come from within our own team. Tanganga got sent off because he lost his head. We lost the game because we were going there hoping for a nil nil draw and put in a poor performance.
Tanganga had played well up to that point and I have been impressed with his progression this season but he needs to make sure that learns from his mistake on Saturday that might've cost us a point (though I think Palace would've won anyway as they were getting more and more on top as the game went on).
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
His red was legit
Both warranted yellows
DeanoAustin
Rafael Van Der Vaart
The second he committed the foul, I knew he was gone. You see yellows for those tackles every week in the league. The lad has no complaints at all. Moss was awful but he got the two calls on Tanganga and the one on Zaha spot on.
glasgowspur
Andy Thompson
If that was a yellow card then should have been at least three more cards shown before that tackle.
I have no problem with players being carded for certain kinds of tackles if the rules are applied evenly, and they weren't on Saturday.
glasgowspur
Andy Thompson
If anything i think he is lucky not to be sent off for the first, hands up, no attempt to play the ball, but zaha was a red all day long and he couldn't send one off and tge other.
A thoroughly cowardly display on from the ref, almost as bad as ours.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
IIRC there was someone talking to him before the free kick that followed, though I don't remember who and I might be misremembering that.
Difficult perhaps for our more experienced players to find the time for that calming talk in what was a rather hectic period, but yeah probably could have done better.
If we were better on the ball we could have let Tanganga calm down a touch by just keeping the ball, take some of the sting out of Palace at the same time. We don't have that capability yet though.
Would have been a good time to go down "injured".
Modric THFC
Jimmy McCormick
I can't think why the guy that likes right wing american religious anti masturbation posts on twitter is so angry all the time on the pitch.
monkeybarry
Jack Jull
Oi! You know the score; it's binary.
He's either the next Ledley King or worse than Alton Thelwell. Stop being balanced. Bloody lefty fascist.
RunTMC
Steven Caulker
Zaha had both hands on Tanganga's face at one point. I always thought raising your hands to your opponents face and making contact with that kind of intent was a red. And of course if Zaha's off, then there's no red mist and he doesn't make that second challenge
Bullet
Colin Calderwood
That picture isn't a strike; that is Zaha trying to push Tanganga away as Tanga strangely hugs him tight.
I thought Tanga was holding Zaha's arms down, but watching the video again Tanga is hugging Zaha's body and Zaha's arms are outside of Tanga's.
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
Tanganga did the “hug” after to restrain him
metalgear
Luka Modric
disappointed to see that only skipp went to offer some sort of emotional support or assurance.
i don't think we have a very strong team spirit in the team at the moment, the senior players don't have a protective nature towards the younger ones, probably they themselves are insecure about being displaced. my opinion, yours may differ and I won't lose sleep over it.
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
It’s where Dier excels with his on the pitch leadership