Igor the Interim

[elyid]

No standards of professionalism from top down. Every time it's time to face some accountability it's always the managers fault. This is from above and underneath him.

£100k a week and you're upset because someone is telling you to put in more effort. Then they wonder why fans don't relate to them. Even more worrying is it shows where thier heads are in regards to the 9 cup finals we have....more concerned with their feelings then the task at hand.

Imagine having the luxury to down tools if you don't like your boss.

It always seems to be something/anything other than knuckle down and give 100% every day.

At this point who cares if you trust the manager, you’re not in a point to criticise unless you’re giving it your all in every match (and training)

 

[braineclipse]

I get that, but realistically would you pick what you consider as a poor option just to do so. Sometimes that works out for the worse. We had that very situation this week when Vicario who many have called to be dropped was so for the weaker backup option and we saw what happened there. The source of the problem is not him not resting Kudus, the source is us not having the depth and breadth of squad where he felt able to rotate Kudus. Until we address these kind of poor squad build issues we will always be plagued with these problems.

Ange did similaer last year when he over played Udogie to the point of injury despite having Reguilion fit and available, yet he did not think Reggie (wrongly imo) was a reasonable rotation option for his first choice, so this isn't a new phenomenon. It always happens when a squad is either unbalanced or weak in terms of quality and depth. We suffer from all of these problems.

I was critical of Ange for some similar decisions.

We should have a better squad, but the role of the manager is also to manage the squad he has.

Yes, I would rather have rested some players and played worse players.

 

[Bishop]

Perhaps we should've signed Wharton from Blackburn at the same time we activated Phillips' release clause... or stumped up the extra for Fernandes rather of settling for the cheaper Lo Celso... then we mightn't have ended up in this predicament of needing to rely upon a (suspension prone) Centreback as our primary line breaking passer...

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Look at Damsgaard, there in 4th place for all competitions, for through balls. I coudn't find any historical data regarding these but last season under Frank he hit 1.90 key passes per match with a total of 62 key passes, hitting the 90%, this season under Andrews he has played 32 key passes 1.91 per match and at the 93 percentile. Which just support my argument that if Frank had the players he would indeed have them playing through balls and centrally so.

 

[billyiddo]

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Well go and flipping do it then.

And who exactly do the players think have any faith in them?

 

[Bishop]

I was critical of Ange for some similar decisions.

We should have a better squad, but the role of the manager is also to manage the squad he has.

Yes, I would rather have rested some players and played worse players.

Thats fair enough, i'm just a realist and managers almost never pick someone they know (or at least think) is a worse player with no upsides over their bonafide starter.

 

[DeanoAustin]

I’m actually fed up with the players coming out with this. At this point, as much as I’m angry we appointed Frank and sympathise with the players having to put up with that, I just don’t want to hear it anymore. Even with Tudor, he may be a big meanie that’s made them run more and asks them to wake up in the warm ups, but I just don’t care. Get on with the fudging job.

These players who by and large achieve nothing with us have on and off for years been leaking that almost every manager we have had has some issue. I’m bored of it. It’s pathetic.

I do not understand how our culture was allowed to become so utterly rotten. Well I think I do, in terms of aimless decision making by our owners. But I’m surprised at how quickly it disintegrated after last year.

It’s always been the culture at our club. It’s why we’ve been so flaky for the 42 years I’ve supported the club. There seems to be a very deferential attitude towards players. It goes back to at least Venables’ time.

I have some sympathy for the players. Not for Tudor making them work hard. fudge that, the least they can do is work hard.

I’ve sympathy because the coach is picking different, unfamiliar formations every week. I’ve sympathy because the manager is playing lads out of position regularly. I’ve sympathy because the manager has thrown lads under the bus pretty much from week 2 here. I’ve sympathy because the manager seems like a dreadful man manager. That all says to me that the manager should be removed and it’s an indictment of the people running the club that they are allowing this to continue.

But I agree. It’s time for the players to put their big boy pants on. Getting Tottenham relegated will be a stain on their careers that they won’t be able to hide from. They owe it to Tottenham Hotspur the club, the fans and themselves to do whatever the fudge it takes to get us out of this mess.

Breaking the cycle of negativity and defeats will take a huge amount of character and balls. If these lads have any aspirations of being elite players, they cannot allow us to be relegated.

 

[Muttley]

Interested in your source?

Here are some from squawka:


<<Tottenham have attempted just 11 through balls in 21 league games in 2025/26, the fewest of any side in the Premier League this season.

Nine players have attempted more through balls than Tottenham in the Premier League so far this campaign:

◉ 18 - Bruno Fernandes
◉ 16 - Bruno Guimarães
◉ 15 - Rayan Cherki
◉ 15 - Martin Ødegaard
◉ 14 - Morgan Rogers
◉ 13 - Jérémy Doku
◉ 12 - Bryan Mbeumo
◉ 12 - Adam Wharton
◉ 12 - Yéremy Pino

While here's how many through balls the Big Six have attempted in the league this season:

◎ 77 - Emirates Marketing Project
◎ 76 - Arsenal
◎ 62 - Man Utd
◎ 52 - Chelsea
◎ 50 - Liverpool
◉ 11 - Tottenham>>

The same source said that during Frank's tenure, the average through balls attempted was 0.52.
Postecoglu's was 1.9

Frank's total addiction to caution meant we went sideways and up either wing for crosses. He was absolutely not interested in risking anything through the middle.

And there it is again.

These clubs buy quality over quantity. They get through balls.

Spurs buy quantity over quality. They don't.

 

[NoLimits01]

Devils advocate here… but let’s consider if Igor is trying different formations to get a tune out of what he has available.

If you ignore the keystone cops debacle at the start it wasn’t a bad performance the other day (relative to the last 20-30 games anyway)

I do have some sympathy for the manager, why should he be best mates and happy clappy with the players, a bunch of snowflakes that complain when they are not getting their own way.

Whatever happens this season there needs to be a flurry of P45s handed out at the end of it

I’m getting ready for the Championship because I don’t think it will matter what manager is in charge this bunch are not good enough or show enough effort to keep us up.

 

[DubSpur]

Look at Damsgaard, there in 4th place for all competitions, for through balls. I coudn't find any historical data regarding these but last season under Frank he hit 1.90 key passes per match with a total of 62 key passes, hitting the 90%, this season under Andrews he has played 32 key passes 1.91 per match and at the 93 percentile. Which just support my argument that if Frank had the players he would indeed have them playing through balls and centrally so.

So our players don't have as much ability as Wolves players? They're not world beaters but there's no way on earth they should be bottom for the most attempted through balls. Frank shackled them into the one pass that they were allowed, out to the wing for a cross.