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Hugo Lloris
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Baleforce
Arthur Rowe
If he cared he wouldn’t have let it get to this point in the first place, he is the senior pro of our squad, the eldest, the most experienced*
*On loan Bale excepted for now, but next season...
MKSpur
Christian Ziege
Winks I don’t see as a huge influence anywhere on or off the pitch. But he doesn’t have much cause for complaint imo.
Dele, without knowing the rumoured off the pitch issues I think he’s been one of our better players. Even tonight I felt like he would do more with the ball than winks Sissoko Moura or lamela.
Bale - there’s something in that for Sunday but bt the same token his contribution had given Jose a stay of execution in the previous few games.
Rodon - I’d be bitterly disappointed if that is the case but may explain his absence regardless of how porous our cbs are. Leaving him out of this squad was a mistake but if a championship centre back is acting up in his first season at a team of our status I’m not sure he has a future at this level.
All speculation of course!
I suppse Dier, Dele and Winks could be an alliance and have high expectations on the games they would play, the rest have all had some form of run in the team. And even Dier was given more than enough rope to hang himself.
Baleforce
Arthur Rowe
Navas is better and the same age.
Poch likes Hugo and will want some of "his" players in the dressing room, Navas is one of those keepers who somehow is destined to be replaced by a bricker option
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Arthur Rowe
good GHod why, have they not caused him enough trouble already?
monkeybarry
Jack Jull
We'll need a keeper
MKSpur
Christian Ziege
I think back and still wonder why Poch had chosen Walker over Trippier!
Somewhere along the line we have kept replacing players with inferior ones, and it seems some of those have developed a false sense of entitlement. We have a lot of players who are technically poor imo and the more that find their way into the first team the less we retain and move the ball progressively.
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I had this argument on this board lots of times.
- It was not just technical differences, it was different types of players but we tried to play the same.
I've seen a lot of Trippier for AM, he spends far less time up the pitch than he did with us, and he's not meant to be the focal point of a threat.
MKSpur
Christian Ziege
No one let Hugo down and he’s the personification of what is wrong with our club. Good rep, talks a good game and can look great at times but then folds when it really matters. It must be difficult for a player to take a captain seriously when he can make match defining mistakes, let alone on a professional level when they’ve been done for drink driving.
MKSpur
Christian Ziege
I just never understood why davies and trippier backed up Rose and Walker, but selling Walker to city helped them, weakened us and unsettled Rose. If Walker did behave badly and as a punishment trebled his wages and guaranteed some domestic trophies you can see why Rose will wish it had been him.
Baleforce
Arthur Rowe
I generally agree, but didn’t he have the most assists in the PL the season before we signed him, and in his first season for us he was very effective overlapping.
Yep, but like Chelsea buying Drinkwater after Leicester one the title.
Trippier and Davies played for a season or so at their peak, form, team setup, whatever, it never was sustainable.
If we wanted to play the game Rose/Walker did, we needed to replace them, not promote their backups
Baleforce
Arthur Rowe
both of them to be fair
monkeybarry
Jack Jull
Wow!
I didn't watch the game.
But brick, that is some interview.
A few takeaways - clearly was an off the cuff thing with his with his bag on.
Very honest and a different voice from the manager to call out those who are not pulling in the team direction.
It's going to take some strong leadership from here - not just from the manager, but the club as a whole.
Needs a few good honest meetings, bruise a few egos.
We don't have many leaders. And the ones we do have are not "bad times" leaders - they won't give you a kick up the arse or the morale booster needed.
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Arthur Rowe
The versatility of Davies was a big part of it I think, being able to play CB, being decent in the air too.
There is logic in having different style backups.
But of course, you shouldn’t have backups, you should have a squad, all capable of being plugged into multiple systems and doing their job.
The fabled plan b.
I thought we noticeably changed our approach play when we changed fullbacks in and out of the team during that period.
Davies and Trippier much more supportive from deep where Walker & Rose attacked high up the pitch.
Probably the most likely, or where I'd place my money. And perhaps given they're English and on home territory and mother tongue (kind of with Dier), I could believe that they could be the noisiest element in the squad
Either way, it comes back to Jose. Part of his job is to manage a squad and maintain morale