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Simon Davies
Top 5 is stretching it.. maybe top 10
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Hugo Lloris
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Top 5 is stretching it.. maybe top 10
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i don't think "he's without doubt" top 5. but i would put him in that group myself. i think he might even be the best tbh. going through some of the other names, i'm just not convinced they are better... cech, buffon, hart, casillas, neuer
Exactly, for me he's easily top 5. I genuinely can't think of anyone I would trade him with for Spurs. Maybe at a push Chelsea's keeper who was on loan at Atletico....
thats exactly what i was thinking too.
casillas - when you think about it, what is he actually good at? nothing imo. and in addition, he looks very questionable when balls are being flung into his box. he doesnt command his area very well at all.
buffon - is getting old now. and in the few games ive manged to see him on tv; confeds cup last and champions league last year, he's managed to make a few clangers that have cost the team.
cech - very good keeper, but has he really been better than lloris in the past 2 seasons? not for me.
de gea - shouldn't even be in this discussion. totally overrated because united fans are praying that he is good. he is not.
hart - very good keeper. has been dropped earlier this year due to drop in form. perhaps he is better than lloris. depends who you ask.
neuer - everyone seems to say he is amazing. i've probably seen around 15 on tv. has looked ok at times. but has never really commanded his box or looked totally convincing for me (i think he has a clanger in him too).
victor valdes - if reina had stayed at barcelona, instead of leaving for first team football at villareal as a teenager, valdes would be playing for a midtable la liga side right now.
Mumorn
Vic Buckingham
I'd say Ter Stegen and Courtois are definitely better than him. Id say de Gea is too.
Not seen Ter Stegen, de Gea is very good but think Lloris is better and Lloris was in several Premier League teams of the year I have seen from various media (not sure who was in the official one). But we'd be splitting hairs anyway, there really aren't 5 better keepers for me....
Mumorn
Vic Buckingham
I believe it was Cech in the official one. The only reason I'd put de Gea is that his distribution is ridiculously good and that is very important for me.
You REALLY need to think some more. Or less.
Fair play, he's a very good shot stopper too but Id say Lloris is a marginally better one and that for me is the main thing I look for (general commanding of the box second). I know Lloris' kicking can be dodgy, but I like the fact he is so calm when the ball is played back to him even under pressure he can pick out a chipped pass or something, his ball skills is excellent for a keeper....
Mumorn
Vic Buckingham
I always wince when the ball goes back to Lloris to be fair.
Mumorn
Vic Buckingham
Distribution, Vocally he is very good, unbelievable reflexes, one on one I don't expect him to be beaten easily, his leadership is second to none, his decision making and bravery is usually very good which is why I was so surprised at his decision to come for the ball in the CL final. Then again we've seen Lloris make those mistakes too, just as costly too
Think people forget how good Casillas is.
[video=youtube;t4OmKm3YPg4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4OmKm3YPg4[/video]
That save at 2:36 is one of my favourites of all time.. along with Coupet of course.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Isn't that the key though? When he was at his best... Been a while since he was. And when talking about the best in the world usually it's present tense, not how good various players were when at their best.
Mumorn
Vic Buckingham
Just because he isn't as good as he once was doesn't mean he isn't still one of the best. Messi is no where near as good as he was last year as he has been previously but youd still get people somehow arguing that hes the best in the world. Casillas is better than Lloris.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
It doesn't mean that he's not still one of the best. But similarly your point that he was once outstanding doesn't mean that he's still one of the best.
Why do you think Casillas hasn't been used in the league this season? Is Diego Lopez about as good, and thus also better than Lloris?
Mumorn
Vic Buckingham
No idea, I don't pick the team. Mourinho had some divine hate for him and decided to play Lopez. I imagine Lopez's superb form kept him in the side. Diego Lopez also has better distribution than Lloris, then again that's not very hard. I think Lopez is a damn good keeper by the way.
i agree that he is very good at all those facets of goalkeeping. but, i don't think he's any better at those things than the other top gk's.
i think its perhaps his off-the-pitch attributes that have made spain and real madrid stick with him for so long. and that could be a very important part of his value as a footballer.