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Harry Kane MBE

Bedfordspurs said:
We have plenty of talent
It’s just not being used
We also seem to have scouts finally
But that isn’t the key to thsi working
The first thing we needed was a coach who wanted to be here… we have that
We also needed a philosophy that can be translated onto the pitch.. we have seen that already
Anges is already showing things that Poch needed a year to show. That’s because he is a experienced

we do have to shift the brick. That’s never quick despite what fans think. That is a legacy of previous managers demanding but not coaching players to improve. You won’t see that with ange as he won’t keep players here who aren’t with him

and finally.. anges way of playing is all out attack which should suit Kane, but Kanes game is very different or what ange has used to date. There could be a compromise there because Kane is fudging brilliant, but that should only happen if Kane is committed. Right now he is only committed to winning medals for himself and that’s why he wants to leave. I really don’t have an issue with that and think we can both benefit if it’s done right.

my worry is that Bayern are acting like shisters… they will IMO eventually get close to the money buy it will all be ok the never never.
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The vast majority of transfers are done on the never, never so not really a factor. We owe loads on transfers and are owed lots of transfers, that's just how it works. If we know the money is coming in I don't think it limits what we can spend, our concern is just not going over whatever spending limits we have set.

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DubSpur said:
Only two shareholders with any say in the club, Levy and Lewis. Who has a big say amongst the directors? The only one now that will matter now is Munn. I doubt very much that anyone in that position doesn't have the balls to tell the likes of Cullen "Thank you very much for your opinion now fudge off to your PR stuff".
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And as much as I don't want Lewis making decisions, you can understand him maybe chiming in and saying if he wants to leave sell him now and let's protect ourselves financially. Zero glory keeping him next season based on where we are and him walking on a free. Probably Lewis vindication an idea that was already being spoken about, Ange was certainly alluding to action being needed and the only real action the club can control proactively is to agree to negotiate a transfer
 
Bishop said:
The vast majority of transfers are done on the never, never so not really a factor. We owe loads on transfers and are owed lots of transfers, that's just how it works. If we know the money is coming in I don't think it limits what we can spend, our concern is just not going over whatever spending limits we have set.

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And the fact we probably have a 2nd XI of players who are paid an absolute fortune who we don't need or probably want anymore. We ain't City or Chelsea, we ain't going to stockpile players in the hope others move on.

With Lloris, Sanchez, Dier, Rodon, Tanga, Ivan, Reggie, Sess, Lo Celso, Ndombele, and one potentially PEH...that's alot of players to retain and add to with uncertainty on getting rid.
 
Bishop said:
The vast majority of transfers are done on the never, never so not really a factor. We owe loads on transfers and are owed lots of transfers, that's just how it works. If we know the money is coming in I don't think it limits what we can spend, our concern is just not going over whatever spending limits we have set.

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Sorry
I didn’t mean finance
I meant bonuses to be paid if and when…
 
Mikey10 said:
The sample size is one pre-season friendly. Best not to get carried away.
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No, we should
Because it shows that a coach invested in coaching rather than running can instantly change things
We never saw great football under Conte even in pre season when he could have tried stuff
We saw players throwing up and our best ever start to a premier league season
 
Bedfordspurs said:
If we had conte as manager losing Kane would be catastrophic
We don’t
We have a coach for a start. Someone who sees his sole purposes being that of improving his team
And anges football needs its striker to play on the shoulder of the defence . Kane does not do that anymore. And it’s going to mean his game has to change. He may or suit it which then means the question of keeping him becomes even more key
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For Kane to work in Postecoglou system you almost need a midfielder who can rotate with Kane up front. That way Kane can search for space in the build up and arrive late in the box as he likes to. So you’d need a midfielder who can put it about and bully defenders and who can finish. If Richarlison could pass better maybe he could take on a deeper role and rotate with Kane. But he can’t pass well enough sadly.

The big question is: does Kane fancy going to Germany? If he wants to try playing under Postecoglou this season he could push for better terms on a contact with us, and insert some flexibility next summer.

But ultimately I think Kane actually fancies a fresh challenge. To take on playing at an elite club and nail it. He won’t necessarily have this opportunity again, not while he’s at his very peek. So I recon Kane is quite conflicted caught between wanting to explore the new era with us and taking an amazing opportunity in Munich. If Bayern stump up the cash it will be sad to see him go. His rise was unlike any other. The way he kept accelerating, feeding on the limelight was one of the most enjoyable times watching Spurs, and part of what made Poch such a great. He lit the touch paper, Kane caught light. Each game getting hotter, surprising himself and everyone else at what he could do!

Idk what formation Ange would have tried Kane in vs Leicester, maybe we’d have seen an evolution from the wham game where Kane was free to drop off. Whether Kane plays on the shoulder or rotates with another player who pushes the CBs back, Ange can make it work. Ball is in Bayern’s and Kanes court now you feel. If Kane won’t extend his agreement in some form and Bayern will pay enough, then everyone will be sad (not least Kane) but we’ll celebrate what a star he became. No doubt he will be back with us again in some capacity.
 
Grays_1890 said:
Yeh I always think City ballsed up, they really really wanted Kane then should have paid what he was worth for him, if anyone let Kane down in the bigger picture there it was them
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They knew they were getting Haaland

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Grays_1890 said:
Then begs the question of why disrupting Kane with no major intention of signing him? The fact still remains that it was them that let Kane down in that scenario
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Just like many of our own failed signing attempts over the years. You rate the player as having a certain value to you and attempt to deal at that value. If you can't agree terms with the selling club you walk away. I'm not sure if we would term ourselves as having failed the players we didn't sign?

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Bishop said:
Just like many of our own failed signing attempts over the years. You rate the player as having a certain value to you and attempt to deal at that value. If you can't agree terms with the selling club you walk away. I'm not sure if we would term ourselves as having failed the players we didn't sign?

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It the sense that they came for him and didn't bid enough when he clearly wanted the move, that was on them. Ultimately his move to City didn't happen because of City

On the bold part there certainly have been takes to that on here. I remember a fair few on here that blamed us for the decline in Berahinos career for disrupting him.
 
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Bishop said:
Just like many of our own failed signing attempts over the years. You rate the player as having a certain value to you and attempt to deal at that value. If you can't agree terms with the selling club you walk away. I'm not sure if we would term ourselves as having failed the players we didn't sign?

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You mean like we did with Reya ?
 
Grays_1890 said:
It the sense that they came for him and didn't bid enough when he clearly wanted the move, that was on them. Ultimately his move to City didn't happen because of City

On the bold part there certainly have been takes to that on here. I remember a fair few on here that blamed us for the decline in Berahinos career for disrupting him.
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Our fans on socials regularly berate the club for not doing deals
The key is we, as fans, don’t know how close or serious we are in those deals
I’m he city one was odd as even their manager talked about it
The key was they wanted him on their terms… same as Bayern are doing so far.
 
Prof on COYS re Kane:

"Despite playing on the tour, respecting Ange, appreciating our fans, working hard in training, etc, following a candid conversation with DL the expectation within the Kane camp is that he will not be a Spurs player by the time the window closes."
 
dingdongo said:
Prof on COYS re Kane:

"Despite playing on the tour, respecting Ange, appreciating our fans, working hard in training, etc, following a candid conversation with DL the expectation within the Kane camp is that he will not be a Spurs player by the time the window closes."
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Now if that referred to the expectation within the "Spurs camp", I'd give it greater credence.
 
Bedfordspurs said:
We didn’t stop him
City didn’t want him enough
That’s the key
Saying we stopped him is the wrong language
Bayern haven’t shown any ambition in their approach so far abs have frankly operated in the same way that when we do it… our fans slag us off for it
City did the same thing
It’s actually weak form those clubs but does show their real intent
Im still convinced Bayern are doing this to make them look serious to their fans so that when they sign a lesser player they can blame us for not wanting to sell Kane
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I disagree with this. I think they've shown a fair amount of ambition already. Bidding £70m for a player who can be secured on a pre-contract deal in just over 5 months is fair. I suspect they'll end up agreeing a fee of around £85m to £95m, where the last £10-£20m is in bonuses. Whether Kane then accepts a move is another matter.
 
dingdongo said:
Everyone on SC losing their sh*t and praying for Muani or Vlahovic to replace him
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Probably the same as a couple summers ago

Still think its 50/50 as Levy won't budge on his asking price and who knows whether the Uncle Joe stuff from yesterday has any truth in it
 
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