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Financial Fair Play
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SteveAWOL
Jimmy Cantrell
Re: O/T Financial Fair Play
Well it's good to see that the powers that be are listening to us by introducing some form of wage cap...
Which presumably excludes CL income and thus just sounds like another way of maintaining the status quo to me :-k
Well it's good to see that the powers that be are listening to us by introducing some form of wage cap...
According to BBC Sport - Premier League agrees new financial regulations
Which presumably excludes CL income and thus just sounds like another way of maintaining the status quo to me :-k
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Bedfordspurs
Joe Kinnear
Re: O/T Financial Fair Play
It gets more exclusive year on year and don't we know it.
Until they take money away (which is never in a happen) then it will be the haves vs the have nots
It gets more exclusive year on year and don't we know it.
Until they take money away (which is never in a happen) then it will be the haves vs the have nots
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Of course it is.
So many people have had the wool pulled over their eyes about so called FFP, it's ridiculous.
Effectively, this rule will allow the biggest clubs (who can earn hugely increased revenues from as yet untapped commercial potential) to continue player wage inflation without censure.
Lesser clubs (whose commercial appeal to potential sponsors is negligible) will have their wage budget capped.
Fairness be damned.
Of course it is.
So many people have had the wool pulled over their eyes about so called FFP, it's ridiculous.
Effectively, this rule will allow the biggest clubs (who can earn hugely increased revenues from as yet untapped commercial potential) to continue player wage inflation without censure.
Lesser clubs (whose commercial appeal to potential sponsors is negligible) will have their wage budget capped.
Fairness be damned.
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Ambition died a long time ago. Avoiding relegation is the target for all but the select few anyway.
Ambition died a long time ago. Avoiding relegation is the target for all but the select few anyway.
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I suppose the PL regulations mean different things to different teams. To my club, it's restricting wealth so we will oppose it. To teams like Man United, it's building a wall between them and the poorer clubs while plastering it and painting it as beneficial to these clubs, so they will support it. To teams like Wigan and Sunderland it ensures that disaster is averted if the worst happens and they're relegated, so they will support it too.
What I don't understand is why teams like Everton and yourselves support it. You're already at a disadvantage to Liverpool, United, Chelsea and Arsenal because they have huge commercial streams already, and the importance of these will only be amplified with the new regulations. I'm not sure, but I think our sales from merchandising and things like that are above yours too, I know our sponsorship deals are. Everton are doomed now. If you don't get Champions League this season, that too could be a bit of a blow, at least until you get this new stadium. Even then, you might already have too much ground to make up.
More than half of the league will suffer from these but only two (I think) opposed it. Like I said, I must be missing something.
I suppose the PL regulations mean different things to different teams. To my club, it's restricting wealth so we will oppose it. To teams like Man United, it's building a wall between them and the poorer clubs while plastering it and painting it as beneficial to these clubs, so they will support it. To teams like Wigan and Sunderland it ensures that disaster is averted if the worst happens and they're relegated, so they will support it too.
What I don't understand is why teams like Everton and yourselves support it. You're already at a disadvantage to Liverpool, United, Chelsea and Arsenal because they have huge commercial streams already, and the importance of these will only be amplified with the new regulations. I'm not sure, but I think our sales from merchandising and things like that are above yours too, I know our sponsorship deals are. Everton are doomed now. If you don't get Champions League this season, that too could be a bit of a blow, at least until you get this new stadium. Even then, you might already have too much ground to make up.
More than half of the league will suffer from these but only two (I think) opposed it. Like I said, I must be missing something.
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They are now. But only since Mansour took over.
Spurs' earnings from those sources were significantly greater than City's previously.
They are now. But only since Mansour took over.
Spurs' earnings from those sources were significantly greater than City's previously.
Spursalot
Jimmy McCormick
Re: O/T Financial Fair Play
I have this picture in my head of Mansour walking into the merchandising shop at City's ground and buying 10 thousand scarves...
I have this picture in my head of Mansour walking into the merchandising shop at City's ground and buying 10 thousand scarves...
Superhudd
Simon Davies
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Do these rules matter for the top clubs, surely the Uefa rules are more stringent with regards debt.
Am I right in thinking that now that Arsenal have paid of its stadium they cannot raise there wages bill by more than 4million, despite the leap in profits for them next year, and with this it will also mean that despite our new stadium, we too cannot raise our wage bill by more than 4million.
Surely a clubs wage bill should be run within the clubs means. Our new income rise on matchday would cover that 4m in two or three home games.
Shouldn't there be a clause in there where depending on a profit rise due to stadium infrastructure build the wage bill can reflect that move.
Having two sets of rules is barmy and over complicates everything.
Do these rules matter for the top clubs, surely the Uefa rules are more stringent with regards debt.
Am I right in thinking that now that Arsenal have paid of its stadium they cannot raise there wages bill by more than 4million, despite the leap in profits for them next year, and with this it will also mean that despite our new stadium, we too cannot raise our wage bill by more than 4million.
Surely a clubs wage bill should be run within the clubs means. Our new income rise on matchday would cover that 4m in two or three home games.
Shouldn't there be a clause in there where depending on a profit rise due to stadium infrastructure build the wage bill can reflect that move.
Having two sets of rules is barmy and over complicates everything.
SteveAWOL
Jimmy Cantrell
Re: O/T Financial Fair Play
Dunno if this has been posted already (it's a bit out of date now) but at least we continue to punch above our weight in the EPL
http://www.financialfairplay.co.uk/latest-news/wage-and-the-premier-league-scaled-table
Dunno if this has been posted already (it's a bit out of date now) but at least we continue to punch above our weight in the EPL
http://www.financialfairplay.co.uk/latest-news/wage-and-the-premier-league-scaled-table
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Spur of the moment
Jimmy Neighbour
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So each notch in the Prem worth an extra c£1m, meaning only £5m difference between us and the highest, Man U, but £16m between us and lowest, QPR.
Good to see a system of reward reflecting performance and based on merit.
So each notch in the Prem worth an extra c£1m, meaning only £5m difference between us and the highest, Man U, but £16m between us and lowest, QPR.
Good to see a system of reward reflecting performance and based on merit.
Spursalot
Jimmy McCormick
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More like £750k per place, but the idea is good.
More like £750k per place, but the idea is good.
Spur of the moment
Jimmy Neighbour
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Okay, crossed wires. Was going by total payments in the last column whereas presumably you're referencing the Merit column based purely on league position.
Okay, crossed wires. Was going by total payments in the last column whereas presumably you're referencing the Merit column based purely on league position.