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European and Global Super League Plans

The new Uefa president, Aleksander Ceferin, a hitherto largely unknown Slovenian lawyer, has vowed his first priority will be to look again at the controversial recent deal to give more Champions League revenue to the continent’s biggest clubs.

Faced with the recurrent threat of a breakaway, the Uefa executive committee recently agreed to hand Italy, England, Spain and Germany four guaranteed slots each in the Champions League and revamped the revenue split to favour to those clubs that had previously been most successful.

But Ceferin, the head of the Slovenian Football Association since 2011 who came from nowhere to win the support of 42 of the 55 Uefa voting members, won the support of smaller federations by complaining they were not properly consulted.

“We were not informed properly, I still think so,” he said after overcoming Michael van Praag, his more experienced Dutch FA rival. “About everything else, we will have to sit down and see what is the agreement and what we can do in future about it.”

The new model, seen as an attempt to quell breakaway talk among Spanish and Italian clubs in particular who are concerned about the Premier League’s financial muscle, was devised by a three-man working group comprising the FA vice-chairman David Gill, the Portuguese Fernando Gomes and Van Praag.

The Dutchman, who said publicly that he would try to unpick the deal if he had won and accused the clubs of putting a gun to Uefa’s head, insisted afterwards that he had not been present when the final details were agreed.

The plan was passed by the Uefa executive committee in Monaco last month but caused outrage among some smaller associations and the umbrella body for the 24 European leagues.

“We should show we are the ones who are the governing body,” Ceferin said. “At the same time we have to have dialogue with the clubs and I’m sure this situation can be solved.”

Senior Uefa sources said it was highly unlikely that the deal would be unpicked and the FA chief executive, Martin Glenn, said Gill had been careful to walk a difficult tightrope.

“It will be one of Aleksander Ceferin’s first big decisions,” Glenn said. “It hasn’t happened yet so technically it can [be unpicked]. David sought to strike a middle ground between defending English club’s interests and trying to prevent a potential worst-case scenario of big clubs leaving. He was trying to strike the middle ground. He is a bright guy and understands all the trade-offs.”

The Uefa presidency, one of the most powerful positions in the game, became vacant in May after the disgraced Michael Platini failed in his attempt to overturna four-year ban in the courts.

Ceferin will take over the remaining two and half years of the Frenchman’s tenure after defeating the 68-year-old Dutch FA president Van Praag by 42 votes to 13.

The genesis of Ceferin’s bid to become Uefa president was believed to be a series of meetings in March in Slovenia and Croatia between around 15 of the smaller members of the confederation to decide on a credible candidate to stand up for their interests. He was also quickly backed by larger countries including Italy, France, Germany, Ireland and Russia.

In his first press conference as president, Ceferin insisted he would not be afraid to also revisit the Financial Fair Play rules that were introduced by Platini but later watered down in the face of opposition from some of the bigger clubs.

“FFP should be enforced more strongly because the gap between the rich ones and the poor ones is wider and wider,” he said. “We have a lot to do.”

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...der-aleksander-ceferin-elected-uefa-president
 
Jordinho said:
The new Uefa president, Aleksander Ceferin, a hitherto largely unknown Slovenian lawyer, has vowed his first priority will be to look again at the controversial recent deal to give more Champions League revenue to the continent’s biggest clubs.

Faced with the recurrent threat of a breakaway, the Uefa executive committee recently agreed to hand Italy, England, Spain and Germany four guaranteed slots each in the Champions League and revamped the revenue split to favour to those clubs that had previously been most successful.

But Ceferin, the head of the Slovenian Football Association since 2011 who came from nowhere to win the support of 42 of the 55 Uefa voting members, won the support of smaller federations by complaining they were not properly consulted.

“We were not informed properly, I still think so,” he said after overcoming Michael van Praag, his more experienced Dutch FA rival. “About everything else, we will have to sit down and see what is the agreement and what we can do in future about it.”

The new model, seen as an attempt to quell breakaway talk among Spanish and Italian clubs in particular who are concerned about the Premier League’s financial muscle, was devised by a three-man working group comprising the FA vice-chairman David Gill, the Portuguese Fernando Gomes and Van Praag.

The Dutchman, who said publicly that he would try to unpick the deal if he had won and accused the clubs of putting a gun to Uefa’s head, insisted afterwards that he had not been present when the final details were agreed.

The plan was passed by the Uefa executive committee in Monaco last month but caused outrage among some smaller associations and the umbrella body for the 24 European leagues.

“We should show we are the ones who are the governing body,” Ceferin said. “At the same time we have to have dialogue with the clubs and I’m sure this situation can be solved.”

Senior Uefa sources said it was highly unlikely that the deal would be unpicked and the FA chief executive, Martin Glenn, said Gill had been careful to walk a difficult tightrope.

“It will be one of Aleksander Ceferin’s first big decisions,” Glenn said. “It hasn’t happened yet so technically it can [be unpicked]. David sought to strike a middle ground between defending English club’s interests and trying to prevent a potential worst-case scenario of big clubs leaving. He was trying to strike the middle ground. He is a bright guy and understands all the trade-offs.”

The Uefa presidency, one of the most powerful positions in the game, became vacant in May after the disgraced Michael Platini failed in his attempt to overturna four-year ban in the courts.

Ceferin will take over the remaining two and half years of the Frenchman’s tenure after defeating the 68-year-old Dutch FA president Van Praag by 42 votes to 13.

The genesis of Ceferin’s bid to become Uefa president was believed to be a series of meetings in March in Slovenia and Croatia between around 15 of the smaller members of the confederation to decide on a credible candidate to stand up for their interests. He was also quickly backed by larger countries including Italy, France, Germany, Ireland and Russia.

In his first press conference as president, Ceferin insisted he would not be afraid to also revisit the Financial Fair Play rules that were introduced by Platini but later watered down in the face of opposition from some of the bigger clubs.

“FFP should be enforced more strongly because the gap between the rich ones and the poor ones is wider and wider,” he said. “We have a lot to do.”

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...der-aleksander-ceferin-elected-uefa-president
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Lets see if he walks the walk.
 
David sought to strike a middle ground between defending English club’s interests and trying to prevent a potential worst-case scenario of big clubs leaving. He was trying to strike the middle ground. He is a bright guy and understands all the trade-offs.”
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So he reduced the English share of the TV pot from 40% to 15% and made sure Man Utd got a bigger chunk of that. He traded off the rest of the English clubs. I wonder how he gets on with Milan's ownership.
 
As far as i am concerned they can stick their CL up their arses, its overblown and set up for the sponser's and the big clubs to make even more money. And its turned the Premership into a Lge that considers finishing among the runners up ( top four) more important then winning things.
 
If Champions League clubs in England end up getting less money from that competition, could it improve our league? From our domestic TV deal, we're seeing most clubs in the league now able to afford big fees and wages. Less money for those clubs qualifying for Champions League would only make things more equal between out domestic clubs, which should mean a better sporting competition, right? Or wrong?

Now if they can just sort out the billionaire crooks buying up clubs and pumping money into them...
 
parklane1 said:
As far as i am concerned they can stick their CL up their arses, its overblown and set up for the sponser's and the big clubs to make even more money. And its turned the Premership into a Lge that considers finishing among the runners up ( top four) more important then winning things.
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I think we need to win the milk cup just for you mate! :)
 
StephenH said:
I think we need to win the milk cup just for you mate! :)
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I want to see us win SOMETHING again, fans have been banging on for years that we can not take the EL , Milk Cup, FA Cup seriously because if we do we will not make it to the losers posistion ( top four). Now we are in the CL what happens now? if we take it seriously then (according to some fans) it may effect our aim for a losers posistion ( top four) and the chances are we will fail to achieve that so next year we will not be in the CL ( because sure as hell we ain't going to win it).

Its madness.
 
Daisuk said:
If this brick happens, and we're in - I'm out. Let's just fudging stay in England, let all the other big clubs fudge off and toy around - and we'll haul in some trophies at long last! haha. fudge this brick.

https://www.skysports.com/football/...er-united-in-talks-for-fifa-backed-tournament
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This bit: "It is not thought that any of the English clubs have yet signed legally binding terms to join, and it was unclear which member of the so-called 'big six' would miss out if only five are ultimately involved."

That'll be us then. As you say let's just do the double for the next 100 years, and tell the other 'Big 5' to fudge off when the experiment falls on it's arse and don't let them back in ever again!
 
Would be interesting to know the FA and PL stance on this competition as it would impact greatly on the FA Cup and PL due to it being 30+ games to fit in to the schedule each year and there are only 43 midweeks between the start of August and end of May.
 
They're not leaving the PL. It sounds like the competitions would be played in unison, which is a fudging joke given how condensed fixtures are already with CL, EL and International friendlies.

Just another way to try and milk the cash cow.
 
nayenezgani said:
They're not leaving the PL. It sounds like the competitions would be played in unison, which is a fudging joke given how condensed fixtures are already with CL, EL and International friendlies.

Just another way to try and milk the cash cow.
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Yep, 38 PL games, 6 rounds of FA Cup and then 30 games in the "Super League", then you have to throw in International breaks, League Cup and cup replays. Not sure there's actually enough time to play all those games.
 
Can’t wait to see when and how they would fit them in to suits the “global” market

I assume it’s Friday nights 1 am to fit in with Asia and the US, and then Prem games starting from Midday in the Saturday, with Cup games on the Sunday (yep im being sarcastic)
 
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