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Bullet said:
Talking of travel... sometimes footballers get criticised for flying around the UK.
But yesterday I drove to Liverpool. For 4.5 hours.
And today I drove home from Liverpool for 3.5 hours.
I did not play a game of football.
It is BOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRING and tiring driving around the UK. So, so boring and tiring.

If I had the cash, I too would fly!
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Oh, you delicate flower. Try living over here in Norfa Merica where far greater distances need to be traversed.

Put on some good music, find cool local radio stations, subscribe to satellite radio or listen to podcasts. Great opportunity to entertain and inform yourself in those undistracted hours.

In my many years of driving across the great expanse of Canada and the US border states, be it western prairies, BC's Rocky Mountains or Maritime provinces shooting junior hockey prospects, I maintained a list of radio frequencies where I could pick up interesting content, be it American Public Radio, WFAN (Sports radio 66, Neeewww Yorrrrk!), Canadian Broadcasting Corp.(CBC), or semi-sloshed conversations with hockey fans in post-game shows from the Molson Canadian/Labatts Blue room from prairie hockey barns in Moose Jaw, Medicine Hat or Saskatoon.

WFAN in New York livened up many a long winter night's drive, especially through predominantly French Quebec. It broadcasts at 660 on the AM dial, a clear channel with no other station on that frequency, so you could pick it up on many nights across half the continent. The overnight host, Steve Somers ("me here, you there, schmooozing a little S-P-O-R-T-S.") could banter with the best of them.

CBC's weekend music shows out west turned me on to a lot of cool alternative country and western artists. Robbie Fulks remains a favourite.

And American Public Radio's weekly satire show, Prairie Home Companion, was warm, witty and good natured. Taught me a lot about my neighbours.
 
The UEFA rules do take a bit of getting used to.

Take Phillips. We buy him at 18 and he can't go on List B until he has completed 2 years with the club. Not a problem last year as we didn't have UEFA football, but in his second season he would have had to be registered on List A. He's only 19 now. By next season he'll be a free-pick U21 List B player and when he turns 21 he'll be a club trained List A player.

The same logic applies to Gray and Bergval who are the same age. They have to spend 2 years on List A, perhaps another year on List B as an U21 before being the club trained List A players. Whereas Lankshear and Moore will only ever be List B players until they progress to 21 when they can become club trained.

If all these young guys succeed, I guess we'll end up with loads of club trained eventually.
 
Muttley said:
The UEFA rules do take a bit of getting used to.

Take Phillips. We buy him at 18 and he can't go on List B until he has completed 2 years with the club. Not a problem last year as we didn't have UEFA football, but in his second season he would have had to be registered on List A. He's only 19 now. By next season he'll be a free-pick U21 List B player and when he turns 21 he'll be a club trained List A player.

The same logic applies to Gray and Bergval who are the same age. They have to spend 2 years on List A, perhaps another year on List B as an U21 before being the club trained List A players. Whereas Lankshear and Moore will only ever be List B players until they progress to 21 when they can become club trained.

If all these young guys succeed, I guess we'll end up with loads of club trained eventually.
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Phillips would have spent a lot of time on loan. Would he still qualify?
 
Lilbaz said:
Phillips would have spent a lot of time on loan. Would he still qualify?
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Yeah, I believe so. I think it is about whether you are registered with our club, even if you are on loan. I get the feeling you need to be playing in the English pyramid though. That is why Devine isn't a problem. He's already got his 3 seasons and can head abroad. It's probably why I've heard Sarr will never be locally trained because he was in Ligue 1 in France. Vuskovic will be another to watch.

Below is the detail from this website - https://documents.uefa.com/r/Regula...League-2024/25/Article-31-Player-lists-Online

31.05
A "locally trained player" is either a "club-trained player" or an "association-trained player".

31.06
A "club-trained player" is a player who, between the ages of 15 (or the start of the season during which the player turns 15) and 21 (or the end of the season during which the player turns 21), and irrespective of the player's nationality and age, has been registered with the player's current club for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons (i.e. a period starting with the first official match of the relevant national championship and ending with the last official match of that relevant national championship) or of 36 months. In the context of this paragraph, the season immediately preceding a player’s 15th birthday may be counted if the player's birthday is after the last match of the relevant national championship but before or on 30 June (winter championships) or 31 December (summer championships), and the season immediately following the player's 21st birthday may be counted if the player's birthday is on or after 1 July (winter championships) or 1 January (summer championships) but before the first match of the relevant national championship.

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An "association-trained player" is a player who, between the ages of 15 (or the start of the season during which the player turns 15) and 21 (or the end of the season during which the player turns 21), and irrespective of the player's nationality and age, has been registered with a club or with other clubs affiliated to the same association as that of the player's current club for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons (i.e. a period starting with the first official match of the relevant national championship and ending with the last official match of that relevant national championship) or of 36 months. In the context of this paragraph, the season immediately preceding a player’s 15th birthday may be counted if the player's birthday is after the last match of the relevant national championship but before or on 30 June (winter championships) or 31 December (summer championships), and the season immediately following the player's 21st birthday may be counted if the player's birthday is on or after 1 July (winter championships) or 1 January (summer championships) but before the first match of the relevant national championship.
 
greatwhitenorf said:
Oh, you delicate flower. Try living over here in Norfa Merica where far greater distances need to be traversed.

Put on some good music, find cool local radio stations, subscribe to satellite radio or listen to podcasts. Great opportunity to entertain and inform yourself in those undistracted hours.

In my many years of driving across the great expanse of Canada and the US border states, be it western prairies, BC's Rocky Mountains or Maritime provinces shooting junior hockey prospects, I maintained a list of radio frequencies where I could pick up interesting content, be it American Public Radio, WFAN (Sports radio 66, Neeewww Yorrrrk!), Canadian Broadcasting Corp.(CBC), or semi-sloshed conversations with hockey fans in post-game shows from the Molson Canadian/Labatts Blue room from prairie hockey barns in Moose Jaw, Medicine Hat or Saskatoon.

WFAN in New York livened up many a long winter night's drive, especially through predominantly French Quebec. It broadcasts at 660 on the AM dial, a clear channel with no other station on that frequency, so you could pick it up on many nights across half the continent. The overnight host, Steve Somers ("me here, you there, schmooozing a little S-P-O-R-T-S.") could banter with the best of them.

CBC's weekend music shows out west turned me on to a lot of cool alternative country and western artists. Robbie Fulks remains a favourite.

And American Public Radio's weekly satire show, Prairie Home Companion, was warm, witty and good natured. Taught me a lot about my neighbours.
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Hahahaha .. having done both, driving in the UK is much more of a mare, brick roads, no strait line to anywhere, traffic everywhere, all day, every day

US once you get out of city (I've done the NYC/Toronto drive a few times), roads less crowded, cars bigger/more comfortable, just a bit easier and Sirius so you don't have to keep switching stations
 
greatwhitenorf said:
Oh, you delicate flower. Try living over here in Norfa Merica where far greater distances need to be traversed.

Put on some good music, find cool local radio stations, subscribe to satellite radio or listen to podcasts. Great opportunity to entertain and inform yourself in those undistracted hours.

In my many years of driving across the great expanse of Canada and the US border states, be it western prairies, BC's Rocky Mountains or Maritime provinces shooting junior hockey prospects, I maintained a list of radio frequencies where I could pick up interesting content, be it American Public Radio, WFAN (Sports radio 66, Neeewww Yorrrrk!), Canadian Broadcasting Corp.(CBC), or semi-sloshed conversations with hockey fans in post-game shows from the Molson Canadian/Labatts Blue room from prairie hockey barns in Moose Jaw, Medicine Hat or Saskatoon.

WFAN in New York livened up many a long winter night's drive, especially through predominantly French Quebec. It broadcasts at 660 on the AM dial, a clear channel with no other station on that frequency, so you could pick it up on many nights across half the continent. The overnight host, Steve Somers ("me here, you there, schmooozing a little S-P-O-R-T-S.") could banter with the best of them.

CBC's weekend music shows out west turned me on to a lot of cool alternative country and western artists. Robbie Fulks remains a favourite.

And American Public Radio's weekly satire show, Prairie Home Companion, was warm, witty and good natured. Taught me a lot about my neighbours.
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Check out Radio Garden app. Let’s you travel the globe by radio stations.

It had liscencing issues in the UK last time I tried there but seems to work from Spain.
 
greatwhitenorf said:
Oh, you delicate flower. Try living over here in Norfa Merica where far greater distances need to be traversed.

Put on some good music, find cool local radio stations, subscribe to satellite radio or listen to podcasts. Great opportunity to entertain and inform yourself in those undistracted hours.

In my many years of driving across the great expanse of Canada and the US border states, be it western prairies, BC's Rocky Mountains or Maritime provinces shooting junior hockey prospects, I maintained a list of radio frequencies where I could pick up interesting content, be it American Public Radio, WFAN (Sports radio 66, Neeewww Yorrrrk!), Canadian Broadcasting Corp.(CBC), or semi-sloshed conversations with hockey fans in post-game shows from the Molson Canadian/Labatts Blue room from prairie hockey barns in Moose Jaw, Medicine Hat or Saskatoon.

WFAN in New York livened up many a long winter night's drive, especially through predominantly French Quebec. It broadcasts at 660 on the AM dial, a clear channel with no other station on that frequency, so you could pick it up on many nights across half the continent. The overnight host, Steve Somers ("me here, you there, schmooozing a little S-P-O-R-T-S.") could banter with the best of them.

CBC's weekend music shows out west turned me on to a lot of cool alternative country and western artists. Robbie Fulks remains a favourite.

And American Public Radio's weekly satire show, Prairie Home Companion, was warm, witty and good natured. Taught me a lot about my neighbours.
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I bet you drive at a more consistent speed when travelling, over here on any motorway your speed will change frequently from 5 to 70 mph but you do get the chance to look for any maintenance workers in the cone zones.
 
Bullet said:
Talking of travel... sometimes footballers get criticised for flying around the UK.
But yesterday I drove to Liverpool. For 4.5 hours.
And today I drove home from Liverpool for 3.5 hours.
I did not play a game of football.
It is BOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRING and tiring driving around the UK. So, so boring and tiring.

If I had the cash, I too would fly!
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Trains are brick and expensive as well. Hopefully that will change under our new government though.
 
Hahaha! My local team just went 3-1 up vs Porto! With 10 men as well! From 0-1 to 2-1, then got one sent off 5 minutes into the 2nd half, but still extended their lead to 3-1 with 25 minutes to go! Damn would have loved to be at the stadium, but couldn't get a ticket.
Porto might be a competitor to us, so good if Bodø Glimt can hold on!
An old "friend" among the Porto entourage, in Andre Villas Boas who is their CEO/Sporting director.
 
Kandi1977 said:
Hahaha! My local team just went 3-1 up vs Porto! With 10 men as well! From 0-1 to 2-1, then got one sent off 5 minutes into the 2nd half, but still extended their lead to 3-1 with 25 minutes to go! Damn would have loved to be at the stadium, but couldn't get a ticket.
Porto might be a competitor to us, so good if Bodø Glimt can hold on!
An old "friend" among the Porto entourage, in Andre Villas Boas who is their CEO/Sporting director.
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And they did hold on! I read an article today that spoke about an OPTA super computer doing 10,000 simulations and as a result the favourites to win the tournament are....Porto :D We are 4th, Man U 6th - surprised to see Slavic Prague ahead of us but I know nothing about them....IMG_7733.jpeg
 
harr1984 said:
And they did hold on! I read an article today that spoke about an OPTA super computer doing 10,000 simulations and as a result the favourites to win the tournament are....Porto :D We are 4th, Man U 6th - surprised to see Slavic Prague ahead of us but I know nothing about them....View attachment 17712
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Weird odds .. who the fudge did those calculations

Slava Prague more likely winners than Spurs, United & Roma??? (not even the current league champions, never won anything in Europe ..)
Porto odds almost double that of us, United & Roma???
 
harr1984 said:
And they did hold on! I read an article today that spoke about an OPTA super computer doing 10,000 simulations and as a result the favourites to win the tournament are....Porto :D We are 4th, Man U 6th - surprised to see Slavic Prague ahead of us but I know nothing about them....View attachment 17712
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I do laugh at super computer predictions. A different one will give different results.

It's about the input which relies on people. Put brick in you get brick out.
 
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So Ange plays Forster in the EFL cup, but doesn't use him in the EL.

It leaves me wondering whether he lost confidence in him after that EFL performance and now regrets not having Spence in the EL squad.
 
Speaking of our Europa squad, has any official reason been provided by Ange or the cub as to why Spence was omitted from the Europa squad?
 
glorygloryeze said:
Speaking of our Europa squad, has any official reason been provided by Ange or the cub as to why Spence was omitted from the Europa squad?
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I think it's been discussed that it was a choice between Spence and Forster due to quota numbers. If Spence was included then we'd have to except that Whiteman/Austin would be back up keeper in the EL.

I do have a feeling Ange likes to respect what he thinks is seniority within the squad.

Another example, last night at 3-0 I'd have brought Moore on rather than Werner.
 
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