Emmanuel Adebayor - Officially gone \o/

[Viper]

Re: So what has gone wrong with adebayor?

Just seen Togo's group, Algeria, Tunisia and Ivory Coast. He'll be back by then end of the week.

 

[Modric THFC]

Re: So what has gone wrong with adebayor?

Really weird thing for Ade to do...not sure why he's gone and done that? He seems a bit emotional about playing for his country which is fine, and even though I've defended him for his performances this season maybe the fact that he's lacking a bit of confidence is down to the fact that there were unresolved issues with Togo.

Regardless, this is just senseless. It's not just AVB that has said he's ok with it. Freund has as well. So he's basically calling the entire coaching staff liars to the press rather than keeping whatever issue he has in-house. Don't understand why...just when everyone looked to be pulling in the same direction.

I'm not surprised at all though, this is the same guy that back in November said:

"I work hard to sign for the club so I cannot see myself moving now, but if the club want me out, I don't have a choice.

"I don't know what's not clicking. Hopefully it will start clicking as soon as possible otherwise, trust me, we will find ourselves in difficulty.

"My friends tell me to keep positive so I don't really want to think about how bad it could be. If we get worse than this, I think we'd be dead.

 

[braineclipse]

Re: So what has gone wrong with adebayor?

You think only having two strikers (one of which has been poor this season) plus Dempsey (who hasn't added much goals to our team) for the entire season is good enough? Not exactly much competition for places is there? Similar to what we had last season when Ekotto had no one to challenge him, unless you're counting Danny Rose.

How people can write this off and say "it's only 3 games" is beyond me considering that we missed out on the Champions League by a point last season.

I already answered this on the previous page, in a post you quoted. Defoe, Ade, Dempsey and Sig. Those 4 this season, last season it was Defoe, Ade, VdV and Saha.

We're not fudging Emirates Marketing Project, we can't have players sitting around doing fudge all on the bench just to cover for someone who is gone for 3 games at most. A bloated squad costs money.

If Sandro picked up a 3 week injury at some point during the window should we look to bring in a replacement in case Parker got injured too?

We have Sig, we have Dempsey, we have Defoe. Two of those players signed under AVB. All of them given games this season, all of them match fit, all of them have performed somewhere between well and brilliantly at points this season.

 

[BrainOfLevy]

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I already answered this on the previous page, in a post you quoted. Defoe, Ade, Dempsey and Sig. Those 4 this season, last season it was Defoe, Ade, VdV and Saha.

We're not fudging Emirates Marketing Project, we can't have players sitting around doing fudge all on the bench just to cover for someone who is gone for 3 games at most. A bloated squad costs money.

If Sandro picked up a 3 week injury at some point during the window should we look to bring in a replacement in case Parker got injured too?

We have Sig, we have Dempsey, we have Defoe. Two of those players signed under AVB. All of them given games this season, all of them match fit, all of them have performed somewhere between well and brilliantly at points this season.

Totally agree. It's like when people in the summer seemed to think Dawson, Gallas, Vertonghen, Kaboul and Caulker didn't seem to be enough centre backs!

 

[Jurgen the German]

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I already answered this on the previous page, in a post you quoted. Defoe, Ade, Dempsey and Sig. Those 4 this season, last season it was Defoe, Ade, VdV and Saha.

We're not fudging Emirates Marketing Project, we can't have players sitting around doing fudge all on the bench just to cover for someone who is gone for 3 games at most. A bloated squad costs money.

If Sandro picked up a 3 week injury at some point during the window should we look to bring in a replacement in case Parker got injured too?

We have Sig, we have Dempsey, we have Defoe. Two of those players signed under AVB. All of them given games this season, all of them match fit, all of them have performed somewhere between well and brilliantly at points this season.

It's not just for 3 games, sooner or later we are going to need to buy a striker. We've been saying it for 3 and half fudging years!

 

[Spursalot]

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It's not just for 3 games, sooner or later we are going to need to buy a striker. We've been saying it for 3 and half fudging years!

I think it's semantics, you don't seem to mean 'buy a striker', you just mean buy a top quality world class striker. Or i think that's what you mean.



If we have the Ade of last year we'd be fine in the Striker situation. We don't, you win some transfers you lose some.

 

[Bonsaiboy]

Re: So what has gone wrong with adebayor?

We need to get rid of this guy. What happens in the dressing room stays in the dressing room. No one should break that rule. Of course AVB didn't want him to go, BUT YOU DON'T TELL EVERYONE ELSE THAT. It paints the manager in a bad light and questions his integrity.

The guy is poison. He's every worst nightmare you were worried he'd be. He's got his contract and we're stuck with him now till the end of the season then hopefully some stupid Arab or Chinese club will come and take him off our hands. If we can bring in a new striker in the window we should ship him out on loan somewhere.

 

[thfcsteff]

Re: So what has gone wrong with adebayor?

Emmanuel Adebayor claims he is yet to receive assurances from Andre Villas-Boas that he is fine with the striker playing in the African Nations Cup for Togo.

Adebayor had initially refused to play in the African Nations Cup due to a row over team security and unpaid bonuses, but following talks with the country's president the Tottenham striker now has his heart set on taking part in the tournament.

"That is what he said to the press, but not what he said to me," Adebayor told africatopsports.com in response to Villas-Boas' comments to the media saying he was happy for the striker to go.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/20955319

Idiot.
I trust somewhere this has got lost in translation...

 

[thfcsteff]

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Of course ratings arent the be all and end all. Some love him, some hate him, but there is a general consensus emerging that he just hasnt been at the races this season. You can offer all the excuses you like, but it isnt just the odd game, it is now over half a season. He just doesnt look up for it. Even if his confidence was low, his touch has been abysmal, he hasnt attacked the ball in the air in the centre of the field, he is reluctant to get in the box and when he does he finishes like a total wally. Just nowhere near good enought for us at the moment. We despeerately need a new striker now.

His inane criticism of AVB was just stupid. AVB is probably happy to let him go to the ACof N because he is not offering anything to the side , and as Statto touched on, may even be counterproductive to the team and the squad. Lets get a proper top striker in and let him fight for his place. His best games last year came when he was under pressure from either Defoe or Saha. He needs a good kick up the jacksie.

Absolutely.
If you remember mate, earlier in the season when he was 'injured' I mentioned that there was more than met the eye, and the bottom line is he was not the first choice signing thus why the deal took so long (I'd also mentioned that in July/August)...but he has been doing 'a' job for us when he's ben playing. I would agree that he needs a good kick up the jacksie, but there again, it depends on whether any of his heart is left in his feet or if it's all in his wallet. I suspect he will be out in the summer IF we can get a Spanish club interested...

 

[braineclipse]

Re: So what has gone wrong with adebayor?

I think it's semantics, you don't seem to mean 'buy a striker', you just mean buy a top quality world class striker. Or i think that's what you mean.



If we have the Ade of last year we'd be fine in the Striker situation. We don't, you win some transfers you lose some.

No, he seems to be saying that we need more strikers, that we don't have enough strikers.

I have made it very clear that I would be delighted to see us sign someone better than the ones we have. I do think that would mean that someone out of the 4 mentioned above would be unhappy/unsettled and that we should then probably look to sell someone.

 

[Jordinho]

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No, he seems to be saying that we need more strikers, that we don't have enough strikers.

I have made it very clear that I would be delighted to see us sign someone better than the ones we have. I do think that would mean that someone out of the 4 mentioned above would be unhappy/unsettled and that we should then probably look to sell someone.

Jason Burt in the Telegraph mentioned something about AVB working hard on squad unity and making everyone feel important and involved. That coupled with Levy's financial "constraints" makes me think it's extremely unlikely we'll see any short term signings or big names. Anyone coming in will be long term prospects, like Damiao, and if a deal can't be made we're happy to wait for the right players. I for one am very happy with such a model, but I suppose it won't sit well with those requiring big spending and marquee signings.

 

[ArcspacE]

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but I suppose it won't sit well with those requiring big spending and marquee signings.

Bit of a contradiction there?

You just mentioned Damiao would be a good signing in your preferred model - however - he'll require both big spending and be considering a massive marquee signing by all standards, mind you - Brazil's second starting striker, do me a fabvour :lol:

 

[Jordinho]

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Bit of a contradiction there?

You just mentioned Damiao would be a good signing in your preferred model - however - he'll require both big spending and be considering a massive marquee signing by all standards, mind you - Brazil's second starting striker, do me a fabvour :lol:

It's only a contradiction if you want it to be.

He's young, already pretty good, but not an established superstar. While he might cost a bit, it's an investment that fits with the type of signings we want to make and he'll only get better.

The same can not be said be said for the likes of Villa or Sneijder.

 

[ArcspacE]

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I simply fail to see why a young prospect which fits ours model can't also be a massive spending /marquee signing. Anything over 16-17m for us is a considerable investment, imv.

For me those two are not mutually exclusive.

 

[DubaiSpur]

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-Adebayor-blasts-lying-Andre-Villas-Boas.html

Adebayor blasts 'liar' Villas-Boas over Cup of Nations claims

Emmanuel Adebayor has blasted Tottenham manager Andre-Villas Boas for 'lying' to the media.

The Spurs boss told the press he would be happy for the striker to go to the Africa Cup of Nations with Togo.

But Adebayor disputes this, saying: 'That is what he said to the press but not what he said to me.

'There is a difference between what you say to the press and what you say in private.'

Right on cue, from the Mail.

 

[Jordinho]

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I simply fail to see why a young prospect which fits ours model can't also be a massive spending /marquee signing. Anything over 16-17m for us is a considerable investment, imv.

For me those two are not mutually exclusive.

I never said they were. What I'm saying is that those expecting an established name, already in a top league, have a long wait ahead. Signings like Vertonghen, Dembele, Modric etc. are all expensive, but they are young, talented, hungry players.

 

[ArcspacE]

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Ffs, Ade

 

[ArcspacE]

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I never said they were. What I'm saying is that those expecting an established name, already in a top league, have a long wait ahead. Signings like Vertonghen, Dembele, Modric etc. are all expensive, but they are young, talented, hungry players.

Perhaps your definition of a 'marquee' signing is somewhat different

If Damiao was to happen (lol) - I'd argue he'd be an even bigger marquee signing than VdV

 

[Jordinho]

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-Adebayor-blasts-lying-Andre-Villas-Boas.html

Adebayor blasts 'liar' Villas-Boas over Cup of Nations claims

Emmanuel Adebayor has blasted Tottenham manager Andre-Villas Boas for 'lying' to the media.

The Spurs boss told the press he would be happy for the striker to go to the Africa Cup of Nations with Togo.

But Adebayor disputes this, saying: 'That is what he said to the press but not what he said to me.

'There is a difference between what you say to the press and what you say in private.'

Right on cue, from the Mail.

Why do people get so upset over quotes taken out of context to support a shock headline?

'Blasted'? Really? To me that presents an image of someone being angry, which I highly doubt he was from the words used. Given the complete exchange of questions and answers with accompanying body language I think this whole article would fall apart.

 

[DubaiSpur]

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Why do people get so upset over quotes taken out of context to support a shock headline?

'Blasted'? Really? To me that presents an image of someone being angry, which I highly doubt he was from the words used. Given the complete exchange of questions and answers with accompanying body language I think this whole article would fall apart.

People aren't upset at the quotes themselves. And I agree with you, the quotes when taken in context would be far more innocuous.

But the media doesn't work that way. They see something that vaguely fits their agenda, they will tailor it to perfectly fit their agenda. 'AVB's poor man management' doomed him at Chelsea, and delighted the Mail and all those other champions of brave Frankie Lamps and heroic EBJT, forced to sit on the bench by this nasty, croaky, dour Portuguese man who doesn't even have the good grace to act like Mourinho and make with the witty quotes. When AVB was given a second chance at Spurs, by replacing media saint and all-round Good Samaritan Harry 'Gandhi' Redknapp, there was a distinct air of the media being out for revenge, looking for any scrap of evidence to beat the club and the manager to death with. The Sun's ill-timed 'Spurs players in AVB revolt' is a perfect example. No quotes, no substance, nothing at all. Yet it made the Sun's sports page.

Logical people laughed it off, just as they will laugh this one off. But the media works on the assumption that repeating flimflam long enough makes it true. And sadly, that's usually the case. Should AVB fail, the Mail could say 'we told you so!' and point to these crap-tastic articles.

And the club's reputation will suffer because of it, and the vast majority of fans will believe everything the Mail printed up to that point because events proved the paper right.

That's why giving the media a golden stick to beat AVB with is a bad idea, and that's why some people are upset with Ade's indiscretion, I suspect.