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Emmanuel Adebayor - Officially gone \o/

Re: So what has gone wrong with adebayor?

billyiddo said:
it's not rubbish - people have been queuing up to have a pop at him since he missed a few games through injury at the beginning of the season, the fact his 'previous' gets dragged up all the time only highlights it.

end product is well below par but he is still contributing in other areas, the way some people carry on it's as though he's strutting around not putting in the slightest bit of effort.
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It is rubbish, because he was ex-Arsenal last season and he got a lot of good praise on this forum. So you are implying that last season we did not give a fudge he was ex-Arsenal but this season we do? Again I say that is complete and utter rubbish.

The truth is a lot of people can notice the severe dip in overall performance. The fact is when he gets back from the ANC he needs to up his game. What about his performance against Arsenal prior to him being sent off? How come he has only been that amazing for just 15 minutes all season? That in itself says there is a problem, especially when you consider a number of people on this forum at the beginning of the season where of the opinion that Adebayor should be starting up front on his own ahead of Defoe
 
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braineclipse said:
Top class strikers don't grow on trees.

Marquee signing? Does that make him any less or more of a waste of money? How? Is this just some other way of saying that he's the best paid player at the club?
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That's true but there are better strikers out there that we could potentially get. It shows a lack of ambition to just say we can't do any better than him.
 
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NaijaSpurs said:
It is rubbish, because he was ex-Arsenal last season and he got a lot of good praise on this forum. So you are implying that last season we did not give a fudge he was ex-Arsenal but this season we do? Again I say that is complete and utter rubbish.
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it's quite a simple concept mate - when a player is playing well all is good, the natives are happy and the player gets lot's of love. but when a player has a bit of a dip in form things change, some players will get (close to) full support through the bad patch and willed on to do better - other players, players like Adebayor who not everyone was happy with signing in the first place, who have links to your arch rivals and who has a bit of dodgy reputation - will, as we can see is the case, get (close to) zero support through a bad patch, constantly dug out and everything else that comes with it. remember the beginning of the season when he was in and out of fitness because of some injuries and everyone was like "OMG here we go - demanding not to play in the cup because it's beneath him" etc etc - funnily enough a lot of those same posters are the ones digging him out the most for his lack of form at the moment. funny that, it's almost as if they can't wait to get on his back about something.

NaijaSpurs said:
The truth is a lot of people can notice the severe dip in overall performance. The fact is when he gets back from the ANC he needs to up his game. What about his performance against Arsenal prior to him being sent off? How come he has only been that amazing for just 15 minutes all season? That in itself says there is a problem, especially when you consider a number of people on this forum at the beginning of the season where of the opinion that Adebayor should be starting up front on his own ahead of Defoe
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mate i can notice the dip in for myself - all im saying is that he isn't offering nothing out there, he is involved and does work to a reasonable level - yes, the end product is way below what we (and he) should expect - but let's support him rather than jump on his back after every game without a goal/assist
 
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From what I can remember, very few people were bothered about his Arse connections, they were just happy to get a striker that was better than Crouch, Defoe and Pav.
 
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Jurgen the German said:
That's true but there are better strikers out there that we could potentially get. It shows a lack of ambition to just say we can't do any better than him.
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Not for 5.5M we can't.

He has been awful and I agree with the negative comments but he actually looks like a £5 million striker. That's Cameron Jerome money and he looks no better than that. In fact worse. I know his transfer value is partly irrelevant but its money we have spent either way

I was at Coventry and my 7 year old nephew asked me if he was injured. When I said no he asked me if he had some kind of running disability!!!! He was 7 at his first game and I intentionally was not criticising any of our players. He can see how poor he was and he has been pretty much all season apart from 106 minutes against his old clubs
 
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All most of us are asking is where is the Adebayor of most of last season? He was really good last year that we are benchmarking his performances this season against last. Now there are circumstances for example he had no pre season, then he has had injuries then he had that red care and and and blah blah blah... there is a point when he excuses stop.

We are not saying the guy is brick what we are, well I am, saying is that he is a much better player than he is showing which brings it down to one reason why his performances arent as good - the effort.
 
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DHSF said:
All most of us are asking is where is the Adebayor of most of last season? He was really good last year that we are benchmarking his performances this season against last. Now there are circumstances for example he had no pre season, then he has had injuries then he had that red care and and and blah blah blah... there is a point when he excuses stop.

We are not saying the guy is brick what we are, well I am, saying is that he is a much better player than he is showing which brings it down to one reason why his performances arent as good - the effort.
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There probably is a point, I don't think that point is after 8 started league games this season.

The excuses would have stopped for a lot of our better players if that was all it took.

Effort is the only thing reason that a player might not be performing at his best levels? Really?
 
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NaijaSpurs said:
And therein lies the rub. Maybe if we want to play CL next season we might consider coughing up more money for a better striker
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"Coughing up money"?

And from where should this money be coughed?

I would understand it if Levy and Lewis were leeching money out of the club, but I can't see that they are. Don't you think Levy and AVB want to spend the limited resources we have at the club in the best possible way?

The problem with Ade now is that he was too cheap? At least we have that and the position that he was our marquee signing in the same thread within 10-15 posts.
 
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braineclipse said:
"Coughing up money"?

And from where should this money be coughed?

I would understand it if Levy and Lewis were leeching money out of the club, but I can't see that they are. Don't you think Levy and AVB want to spend the limited resources we have at the club in the best possible way?

The problem with Ade now is that he was too cheap? At least we have that and the position that he was our marquee signing in the same thread within 10-15 posts.
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Whilst I partially agree I also think there is a case that Levy and maybe AVB didnt really prioritise the signings. So say you have 60m - instead of buying someone like Sig for 8m why dont you add that to say 5m for Ade (or 6m for Dempsey) and another 5-10m (which I am certain we have lying around) and go buy a striker?

Before you berate me we did need a couple of midfielders (we just had to) but its about priorities and one of them essential was a striker.

It still seems to me that Ade was not so much a panic signing but the last resort. I think we did have reservations even though he performed well last season. 5m is a small risk but not when you factor the massive wages and other costs involved
 
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braineclipse said:
Top class strikers don't grow on trees.

Marquee signing? Does that make him any less or more of a waste of money? How? Is this just some other way of saying that he's the best paid player at the club?
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I was more implying that because of the money he was on and the status he has he would be automatic first choice. He would start games when he was completely out of form just because who he is.
 
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DHSF said:
All most of us are asking is where is the Adebayor of most of last season? He was really good last year that we are benchmarking his performances this season against last. Now there are circumstances for example he had no pre season, then he has had injuries then he had that red care and and and blah blah blah... there is a point when he excuses stop.

We are not saying the guy is brick what we are, well I am, saying is that he is a much better player than he is showing which brings it down to one reason why his performances arent as good - the effort.
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Some of us didn't rate him by the end of last season either.
He was it all technically and physically but mentally the guy is so fragile.
 
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DHSF said:
Whilst I partially agree I also think there is a case that Levy and maybe AVB didnt really prioritise the signings. So say you have 60m - instead of buying someone like Sig for 8m why dont you add that to say 5m for Ade (or 6m for Dempsey) and another 5-10m (which I am certain we have lying around) and go buy a striker?

Before you berate me we did need a couple of midfielders (we just had to) but its about priorities and one of them essential was a striker.

It still seems to me that Ade was not so much a panic signing but the last resort. I think we did have reservations even though he performed well last season. 5m is a small risk but not when you factor the massive wages and other costs involved
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We did buy a striker.

AVB has made it clear that he counts Dempsey as a striker, in addition we signed Adebayor.

He might have been last resort, we might have had our reservations. I still think if he was our last resort that's a pretty good last resort to have. The ones we really wanted must have been great.

We're paying Ade around half of what he got at City if I remember correctly and the reports are correct. How much is that? £10-20k p/w more than what Parker reportedly got. It may not be a small risk, but it's not a massive risk either.
 
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Lily White said:
I don't often agree with your views Steff but I do on this subject. Ade is this months jenas, doesn't matter how well we do there is always a player singled out for abuse and critisism.Crouchy use to get the same comments levelled at him as Ade but he also worked hard in dragging players around to create space for others but this is never appreciated even though it is great team play.
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Indeed, and for all the brick Crouchy gets, he was part of our only CL side...I was not happy when we sold him...
 
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thfcsteff said:
Indeed, and for all the brick Crouchy gets, he was part of our only CL side...I was not happy when we sold him...
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I was happy we sold him then again I, like Harry, thought we were gonna replace him properly. However I dont think he was as rubbish as people make out on here and people are a bit harsh on him. He wasnt elegant but he definitely added a different dimension (;)) to our play
 
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DHSF said:
I was happy we sold him then again I, like Harry, thought we were gonna replace him properly. However I dont think he was as rubbish as people make out on here and people are a bit harsh on him. He wasnt elegant but he definitely added a different dimension (;)) to our play
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Crouch scared the beejeezus out of opposition defences simply because they had no idea how to handle him.
 
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THFC6061 said:
Crouch scared the beejeezus out of opposition defences simply because they had no idea how to handle him.
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Its difficult for defences to handle a player who doesnt even know what he is gonna do next as his brain and legs are SO independent from each other - due to the length and subsequently time it takes for the senses to connect
 
Re: So what has gone wrong with adebayor?

braineclipse said:
We did buy a striker.

AVB has made it clear that he counts Dempsey as a striker, in addition we signed Adebayor.

He might have been last resort, we might have had our reservations. I still think if he was our last resort that's a pretty good last resort to have. The ones we really wanted must have been great.

We're paying Ade around half of what he got at City if I remember correctly and the reports are correct. How much is that? £10-20k p/w more than what Parker reportedly got. It may not be a small risk, but it's not a massive risk either.
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Even if you count Dempsey, that still only leaves us with two strikers. If they both play, then that leaves no one on the bench. I can't understand why we would want to leave ourselves so short.
 
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