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Emmanuel Adebayor - Officially gone \o/
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Re: So what has gone wrong with adebayor?
They are also signing Llorente and in talks with Drogba.
They are also signing Llorente and in talks with Drogba.
Tottenham Hotspur are braced to cope without Emmanuel Adebayor during the Africa Cup of Nations after all, with the Togo forward's presence at the tournament over the next month leaving the Premier League club to consider a new bid for the Brazil forward Leandro Damião.
Adebayor had suggested last year that he would not take part in the finals in South Africa, which run from 19 January to 10 February, due to a row over unpaid bonuses and the Togo team's security. The 28-year-old had retired from international football in April 2010 having been profoundly affected by the terrorist attack on the national team bus, which left three people dead before the previous tournament in Angola and despite returning to the fold in November 2011, had quit again, apparently over the pay dispute.
Yet Togo now claim that he has changed his mind again and will be available for the tournament, having apparently flown to Ghana to meet up with the squad for their pre-finals training camp. Indeed, the Togolese president, Faure Gnassingbé, was due to meet Adebayor personally in a bid to persuade him to spearhead the side's Group D campaign against Ivory Coast, Algeria and Tunisia. "Of course we're in the African Nations Cup with Adebayor – we will be together in South Africa," the head of the Togo Football Federation, Ameyi Gabriel, is reported to have told Radio Algeria International. "It is very important to have him there because he is our player and captain of the team."
Adebayor has until Wednesday to confirm his availability – regardless, Spurs' players were granted three days off after Saturday's win over Coventry – when national associations have to submit their final squads for the tournament. Spurs have stressed they would not stand in the player's way if he chose to represent his country, ruling him out of the side's next four games, despite the potential disruption it might have on their season. Adebayor boasts only two Premier League goals this term, with Andre Villas-Boas having relied heavily on Jermain Defoe up front.His absence would leave the manager reliant upon the likes of Clint Dempsey or Gylfi Sigurdsson up front should the England forward succumb to injury.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/jan/07/tottenham-emmanuel-adebayor-togo
Adebayor had suggested last year that he would not take part in the finals in South Africa, which run from 19 January to 10 February, due to a row over unpaid bonuses and the Togo team's security. The 28-year-old had retired from international football in April 2010 having been profoundly affected by the terrorist attack on the national team bus, which left three people dead before the previous tournament in Angola and despite returning to the fold in November 2011, had quit again, apparently over the pay dispute.
Yet Togo now claim that he has changed his mind again and will be available for the tournament, having apparently flown to Ghana to meet up with the squad for their pre-finals training camp. Indeed, the Togolese president, Faure Gnassingbé, was due to meet Adebayor personally in a bid to persuade him to spearhead the side's Group D campaign against Ivory Coast, Algeria and Tunisia. "Of course we're in the African Nations Cup with Adebayor – we will be together in South Africa," the head of the Togo Football Federation, Ameyi Gabriel, is reported to have told Radio Algeria International. "It is very important to have him there because he is our player and captain of the team."
Adebayor has until Wednesday to confirm his availability – regardless, Spurs' players were granted three days off after Saturday's win over Coventry – when national associations have to submit their final squads for the tournament. Spurs have stressed they would not stand in the player's way if he chose to represent his country, ruling him out of the side's next four games, despite the potential disruption it might have on their season. Adebayor boasts only two Premier League goals this term, with Andre Villas-Boas having relied heavily on Jermain Defoe up front.His absence would leave the manager reliant upon the likes of Clint Dempsey or Gylfi Sigurdsson up front should the England forward succumb to injury.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/jan/07/tottenham-emmanuel-adebayor-togo
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
Re: So what has gone wrong with adebayor?
Absolutely. I've said it for months, he isn't good enough. Just because he's arguably better than any forward we've had since Berbatov doesn't mean we shouldn't look to replace him.
Absolutely. I've said it for months, he isn't good enough. Just because he's arguably better than any forward we've had since Berbatov doesn't mean we shouldn't look to replace him.
DHSF
Les Ferdinand
southstand1882
Mitchell Thomas
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Re: So what has gone wrong with adebayor?
You could be one of the best scouts in the world, there would still be a considerable chance that the player you found would be a flop.
You could be one of the best scouts in the world, there would still be a considerable chance that the player you found would be a flop.
DHSF
Les Ferdinand
Re: So what has gone wrong with adebayor?
Every player you buy is a risk is it not? The player could have the greatest cv in history of football but they just may not sustain those previous performances with the club. You can mitigate the risk through continuous scouting and player statistics etc etc etc but ultimately there is still a risk.
We may have scouted Leandro for 20 years and when he arrives he turns out to be brick whilst a player you scouted for a game or two could turn out to be the best buy the club has ever had
In all seriousness I dont know that many top quality strikers except for the likes of Llorente so I would suggest we go all out for someone like him (he may or may not perform for us and we will never know until we bring that player in). You gotta buy a ticket and all that
Every player you buy is a risk is it not? The player could have the greatest cv in history of football but they just may not sustain those previous performances with the club. You can mitigate the risk through continuous scouting and player statistics etc etc etc but ultimately there is still a risk.
We may have scouted Leandro for 20 years and when he arrives he turns out to be brick whilst a player you scouted for a game or two could turn out to be the best buy the club has ever had
In all seriousness I dont know that many top quality strikers except for the likes of Llorente so I would suggest we go all out for someone like him (he may or may not perform for us and we will never know until we bring that player in). You gotta buy a ticket and all that
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Re: So what has gone wrong with adebayor?
Exactly. And in our position we have to minimize the chance of a £20m+ signing being a flop, we can't absorb that kind of loss easily. Strikers are generally expensive anyway. A deal isn't going to happen unless we get the right player for the right price. I think some caution and patience from Levy and AVB is the right strategy.
As long as Juve want him I can't see us getting Llorente regardless of how all out we go (within our means).
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To return to Adebayor. I wish some of those having a go at him for not performing would go read some pages of the Dempsey thread from back when he was considered to be brick by so many here.
Exactly. And in our position we have to minimize the chance of a £20m+ signing being a flop, we can't absorb that kind of loss easily. Strikers are generally expensive anyway. A deal isn't going to happen unless we get the right player for the right price. I think some caution and patience from Levy and AVB is the right strategy.
As long as Juve want him I can't see us getting Llorente regardless of how all out we go (within our means).
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To return to Adebayor. I wish some of those having a go at him for not performing would go read some pages of the Dempsey thread from back when he was considered to be brick by so many here.
BrainOfLevy
Michael Carrick
Re: So what has gone wrong with adebayor?
I can really see us getting Leandro this month. Every summer the line seems to be 'we won't sell him now because we are half way through our season' and with the relative confidence that the club have shown towards letting Ade go to the ACN, I think they are reckoning they might stump up the money for Leandro this time.
I wouldn't be surprised if they knew full well this situation might happen, and thought the stars would align perfectly if Ade goes and the Brazillian season ends. Plus we would then get Ade back and still have Defoe, which could give Leandro some sort of breathing space after his own season like Sandro had. And if we do get seriously unlucky with injuries then we do have a Brazil no.9 to come in if we choose to go for him.
I can really see us getting Leandro this month. Every summer the line seems to be 'we won't sell him now because we are half way through our season' and with the relative confidence that the club have shown towards letting Ade go to the ACN, I think they are reckoning they might stump up the money for Leandro this time.
I wouldn't be surprised if they knew full well this situation might happen, and thought the stars would align perfectly if Ade goes and the Brazillian season ends. Plus we would then get Ade back and still have Defoe, which could give Leandro some sort of breathing space after his own season like Sandro had. And if we do get seriously unlucky with injuries then we do have a Brazil no.9 to come in if we choose to go for him.
DHSF
Les Ferdinand
Re: So what has gone wrong with adebayor?
Dempsey was new to the team and in hindsight (I slaughtered him mind you) he needed time playing in a new role. In regards to Ade - its the fact he isnt putting in the effort. It is fairly plain to see - to paraphrase Gary Neville - I can see it with my very own eyes. I dont mind if he isnt scoring but he is impact negatively on Defoe in that prior to Ade's return Defoe was performing at a higher level to what he is now. Ade isnt new to the team and is used to most of the players surrounding him, he just isnt putting in the effort and its about time he bucked his ideas up and start grinding.
Dempsey was new to the team and in hindsight (I slaughtered him mind you) he needed time playing in a new role. In regards to Ade - its the fact he isnt putting in the effort. It is fairly plain to see - to paraphrase Gary Neville - I can see it with my very own eyes. I dont mind if he isnt scoring but he is impact negatively on Defoe in that prior to Ade's return Defoe was performing at a higher level to what he is now. Ade isnt new to the team and is used to most of the players surrounding him, he just isnt putting in the effort and its about time he bucked his ideas up and start grinding.
DHSF
Les Ferdinand
Re: So what has gone wrong with adebayor?
I hope youre right - a signing like this can really push us on to get that top four.
I hope youre right - a signing like this can really push us on to get that top four.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Re: So what has gone wrong with adebayor?
Neville didn't say that about Ade though, did he?
I didn't see the Coventry game, but I don't think there's been much wrong with Ade's work rate this season. I've seen that with my own eyes so I suppose that's the end of that argument.
I've argued against the Ade influencing Defoe's scoring form in another thread. In short my point is that Defoe has been getting chances, but not taking them and that Defoe has been inconsistent his entire career. A barren spell was always coming up sooner or later regardless and I don't see how Ade being on the pitch is influencing how Defoe takes his chances. Maybe if he wasn't getting any chances I could see the point, but as long as he's getting chances, but not taking them I see no reason to believe this claim.
Neville didn't say that about Ade though, did he?
I didn't see the Coventry game, but I don't think there's been much wrong with Ade's work rate this season. I've seen that with my own eyes so I suppose that's the end of that argument.
I've argued against the Ade influencing Defoe's scoring form in another thread. In short my point is that Defoe has been getting chances, but not taking them and that Defoe has been inconsistent his entire career. A barren spell was always coming up sooner or later regardless and I don't see how Ade being on the pitch is influencing how Defoe takes his chances. Maybe if he wasn't getting any chances I could see the point, but as long as he's getting chances, but not taking them I see no reason to believe this claim.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Denmark Spur
Michael Carrick
Re: So what has gone wrong with adebayor?
Just FYI
Just FYI
THFC6061
Paul Robinson
Re: So what has gone wrong with adebayor?
Adebayor going to the ACON is a very convenient way for AVB to avoid dropping him.
If he has a good tournament, his confidence should be boosted and we'll have a much improved player on our hands for the remainder of the season.
Meanwhile, Defoe can be the main man once more and concentrated on what he does best - putting the ball in the back of the net - and Dempsey has already proved to be a more than capable alternative to Adebayor.
This should also mean that Sigurdsson will get a few more starts under his belt.
Adebayor going to the ACON is a very convenient way for AVB to avoid dropping him.
If he has a good tournament, his confidence should be boosted and we'll have a much improved player on our hands for the remainder of the season.
Meanwhile, Defoe can be the main man once more and concentrated on what he does best - putting the ball in the back of the net - and Dempsey has already proved to be a more than capable alternative to Adebayor.
This should also mean that Sigurdsson will get a few more starts under his belt.
Bullet
Andy Thompson
Re: So what has gone wrong with adebayor?
He's retired and unretired and retired and unretired and retired and unretired since April 2010 so it depends which retirement we're talking about; the guy changes his mind more often than Wenger in a Sunday school. I remember him retiring before we signed him, and people saying that was good as he wouldn't go to ACN.
As DHSF said, I can cope if he misses chances, but it is the lack of effort, drifting around the pitch, jogging, smiling, walking, letting others run past him to chase back, not spending enough time in the box that annoys me. He should be the focus of our attack, our most expensively remunerated player, our leader, our talisman, our matchwinner busting a gut to get on the end of every ball and throwing himself into challenges. But he is the opposite. He will score if a nice ball comes along, but he won't kill himself to score if it isn't a good ball.
He's retired and unretired and retired and unretired and retired and unretired since April 2010 so it depends which retirement we're talking about; the guy changes his mind more often than Wenger in a Sunday school. I remember him retiring before we signed him, and people saying that was good as he wouldn't go to ACN.
As DHSF said, I can cope if he misses chances, but it is the lack of effort, drifting around the pitch, jogging, smiling, walking, letting others run past him to chase back, not spending enough time in the box that annoys me. He should be the focus of our attack, our most expensively remunerated player, our leader, our talisman, our matchwinner busting a gut to get on the end of every ball and throwing himself into challenges. But he is the opposite. He will score if a nice ball comes along, but he won't kill himself to score if it isn't a good ball.
DHSF
Les Ferdinand
Re: So what has gone wrong with adebayor?
No it wasnt about Ade I was just saying that eyes says a lot more than stats etc. You think differently and thats fine. Maybe I have a view of what effort is which different to your view.
No it wasnt about Ade I was just saying that eyes says a lot more than stats etc. You think differently and thats fine. Maybe I have a view of what effort is which different to your view.