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Emmanuel Adebayor - Officially gone \o/
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Spursalot
Jimmy McCormick
Is it really?
His touch was off but the effort was still there. He ran around, closed people down and looked like he wanted to play. What he did not look was match fit.
Rorschach
Ricky Villa
I tend I have to agree with you. There's something not right about all of this. I sincerely hope I am wrong because a fully fit and motivated Ade is more of an asset to the team than Defoe in my opinion. I think simply the reason Ade is not playing is that he arrived late to the party and the DJ at the decks is doing pretty well. He'll get his chance and has to take it rather than act like a spolit child (disclaimer:if that is what he is doing).
GrimsbyYid
Gus Poyet
How anyone can slag off AVB on this situation is baffling, however frustrating it is him not starting for us.
Ade didn't have a pre season with us and was completely unfit at the start of the season. He COULDN'T start. And every time he has had an opportunity to play (like Lloris who took them) he has been ill. So he hasn't improved his match fitness and he hasn't staked his claim. What people seem to expect is to throw him in and not earn his place.
I want in the starting eleven. I don't Defoe works in the formation. But either he isn't fit and injured, or he's been an absolute **** and refusing to play in the lesser matches. Either way he shouldn't be starting.
There is no version of this situation where AVB is wrong.
Ade didn't have a pre season with us and was completely unfit at the start of the season. He COULDN'T start. And every time he has had an opportunity to play (like Lloris who took them) he has been ill. So he hasn't improved his match fitness and he hasn't staked his claim. What people seem to expect is to throw him in and not earn his place.
I want in the starting eleven. I don't Defoe works in the formation. But either he isn't fit and injured, or he's been an absolute **** and refusing to play in the lesser matches. Either way he shouldn't be starting.
There is no version of this situation where AVB is wrong.
Pirate55
The Last Man Standing 17/18
Surely it is up to AVB and the coaching/medical team to get him fit and motivated. He joined us in August. On Thursday it is november. Has it really taken them the best part of three months to get a player up to speed.
Its not just Ade - Parker, Kaboul and BAE's injuries seem to be taking forever to clear up as well. I am not convinced our medical fitness staff are up to it. We seem to fade every second half - concede over 83% of our goals in that period - and havent scored in the last 10 minutes ourselves to take a point or more since the old king was on the throne!
Kingdawson
Banned
6? 0? 2 and a half?
parklane1
Tony Galvin
Not forced on him - I'm sure AVB agreed to the signings, with Levy acting as de facto DOF - but I don't think they were anywhere near his first choices, and I suspect he agreed to them thinking that he would get Moutinho, and he wanted Moutinho so much that taking cheaper players elsewhere was acceptable (not the ideal, but I'm sure AVB understands our financial limitations). The problem, of course, is no Moutinho - or any deep playmaker at all - so... it hasn't exactly gone to plan.
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I'm a big Ade fan and unless he's unfit or unmotivated, I think he should start over Defoe any day. I do think there's something not quite right about it all, but my suspicion is that Ade came so late, and without a preseason, that he's had to do a lot of catch-up work and by not being totally fit has made himself more vulnerable to illness and injury. So yeah, he really is not match fit atm; but I think the whole business with City and missing fitness has not impressed AVB either. I don't think AVB is all that stubborn about sticking to the old guard, considering he's played plenty of the new signings along with 'youngsters' like Caulker and Livermore.
Pirate55
The Last Man Standing 17/18
Ade is a real Jekyl and Hyde. On his day, he is among the best CF's in the world. However, he is also prone to sulking, sloppiness, laziness (especially when getting needlessly offside) and poor finishing. Which one turns up is anyones guess.
WookieD
Didier Zokora
My brother is a Gooner and he said "just wait, as soon as he signs permanently he'll become a problem"... Really hope he isn't right.
Rorschach
Ricky Villa
WookieD
Didier Zokora
He was a Watford, Liverpool (because Barnes moved there) and then a Palace fan before settling on L'Arse! Next door neighbour signed him up as a Junior Gunner and took him to matches as he had two girls himself (Oh the chauvinist times we grew up in :lol: ) when he was about 12 or something...
...I myself flew a much straighter and truer path... Picked Spurs when I was about 6 because I like blue!
Rorschach
Ricky Villa
Its funny how these things play out. Over the years I've managed to somehow convert two brothers and one sister to the 'true path' from other teams. Now its all we talk about when we get together.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
So, after the discussions in previous weeks about Adebayor being visibly unhappy and frustrated I tried to pay particular attention to him and his body language against Wigan.
I could see him smiling and looking happy as he was warming up. I could see him running about a lot when he came on and trying really hard to make stuff happen. Stats showed him having a lot more involvements on the ball than JD did per minute and he overall looked eager to get the ball and chase opponents when need be.
I couldn't see a single real sign of the unhappiness people have claimed to see previously.
I could see him smiling and looking happy as he was warming up. I could see him running about a lot when he came on and trying really hard to make stuff happen. Stats showed him having a lot more involvements on the ball than JD did per minute and he overall looked eager to get the ball and chase opponents when need be.
I couldn't see a single real sign of the unhappiness people have claimed to see previously.
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
parklane1
Tony Galvin
Rorschach
Ricky Villa
Sounds a bit sinister.
Aside, he looks very happy in the training pics on the official site.