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Emmanuel Adebayor - Officially gone \o/
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Spurmac1974
Reto Ziegler
Even if he scored 30 next year I couldn't warm to the big cnt! Haven't had a hatred like this to one of our players since Andy Gray left
Maltese Falcon
Niko Kranjcar
So how is Adebayor a wage thief and Soldado not?
In his years at WHL, he had an outstanding season under Redknapp and another under Sherwood in which he was mainly responsible for our relative success; there is no doubt that we would not have made Europe without his goals and assists. He then had a poor season under AVB and for the past year the man has been obviously suffering from clinical depression - which can be as debilitating as a curciate ligament tear.
On the other hand, Sold-a-dud has been a total and abject waste of money; but apparently one is "Robby" and the other "Hated Ade"
Maltese Falcon
Niko Kranjcar
Just read a report that Ade is apparently "very happy at Spurs".
Can't imagine why (apart from his wages of course) or indeed why we would make him so happy.
Maybe - just maybe (and this is the eternal optimist in me speaking) - he is truly grateful for the club for its support, patience and understanding during his mental illness???
Maltese Falcon
Niko Kranjcar
Seeing as you haven't exactly ever had a love in with Ade since day 1, even when he was banging in the goals, you will understand my inclination to take with a pinch of salt...
You may of course be perfectly right - but why should that not also apply to Roberto Sold-a-dud?
DublinSpur
Scott Parker
Can't speak for anyone else, but the difference between Soldado and Adebayor in my view is mostly down to Soldado never being exiled from the squad for several months because he joined a small group of players who were trying to undermine our new manager. I'm aware others had problems with Ade before then, but for me his behaviour (along with Kaboul's and Capoue's) means he should not be a Spurs player.
Others are welcome to forgive him for that if they like. I'd rather we just got rid.
Others are welcome to forgive him for that if they like. I'd rather we just got rid.
Almost everyone would prefer that imo, as long as we get something useful out of it. I doubt that is going to happen though. At best we could probably loan him out to another team and still end up paying half his wages... in that case I rather give him a chance here.
DublinSpur
Scott Parker
I wouldn't. Just like Capoue and Kaboul I would genuinely rather pay them off and get them out of the club than have them around next season. But that's just a personal opinion.
Not at all - I was very much on the side of signing Ade. I'd been a fan of his ever since he ran the length of the pitch to make a load of goons pretend they were trying to get to him. I also didn't believe that a professional footballer could regularly put in the kind of performances I'd heard Arsenal and City fans complaining about. Clearly I underestimated him and his greed/laziness.
Soldado doesn't get the same treatment because he hasn't been hiding behind defenders, standing still (miles offside) whilst everyone else presses, or grinning when he fails. He also didn't miss preseason trying to get his old club to supplement his already ludicrous wage, sod off mid-season on a self-awarded holiday, require the club to schedule a private jet to drag him home or undermine a manager in front of the rest of the team.
parklane1
Tony Galvin
And do not forget one of them used to wear the red shirt, no matter what they say some have never been able to see pass that.
I think its also got something to do with AVB man crushes.
Spurmac1974
Reto Ziegler
I dont even think you believe that, it was hardly an outstanding season under Sherwood he only played a portion of games, and Soldado has been a total failure but at least he doesnt cause problems wherever he goes and only play when he can be arsed.
Maltese Falcon
Niko Kranjcar
I think you did not grasp what I was talking about. Is Ade a nasty piece of work? Probably. Do I believe he is money obsessed? Definitely. Do I like him as a person? Hell no!
But the issue is whether he is a wage thief. In other words, did he steal his wages without giving anything in return? On this specific point, then - much as I can possibly dislike him on a personal level - I cannot agree that Adebayor was the worst wage thief because for two seasons he justified his salary with decent displays - irrespective of what those who want to change history would tell us. The accolade of wage thief fits Soldado much more, irrespective of the guy being so much more likable.
Maltese Falcon
Niko Kranjcar
It's impossible to do a rational discussion on Adebayor because the first thing you get are these type of emotional replies; I don't give a brick if a player tries or not, all I am interested in is whether he is effective in his position or not. Probably cultural, I guess - this fixation on graft seems a public school English thing, since I have never come across it in Italy or Spain either..
A striker's job is to put the ball in the net - if they spend 80 minutes drinking vodka on the touchline but score a hat trick in the remaining 10 and win us the game, that's all I ask.
Both Soldado and Adebayor were absolutely crap this season but Ade shat all over Soldado in the last.
Therefore - to again come back to the subject - the latter fits in better to the definition of wage thief.
Adebayor had 2 good spells; his first season on loan and half a season under Sherwood.
Soldado hasn't had a good spell yet. He hasn't done anything wrong the way Adebayor did (not get back from Africa) but nor has he made the goal-scoring contribution that Adebayor has. His signing has been the bigger waste of money if you did league goals per pound spent (including wages).
They both need to be sold ASAP.
Soldado hasn't had a good spell yet. He hasn't done anything wrong the way Adebayor did (not get back from Africa) but nor has he made the goal-scoring contribution that Adebayor has. His signing has been the bigger waste of money if you did league goals per pound spent (including wages).
They both need to be sold ASAP.
Look, Soldado is a nice guy and Adebayor is a bit of a coont, I think we can all agree on that. At the end of the day that is not what should really matter though. Tottenham Hotspur is a football club, not a charity organisation. We can't afford it to prefer a striker in Soldado, who has actually been less effective to us than other strikers, just because he is a good guy. Those who would rather keep Soldado ahead of Adebayor are clearly letting their personal dislike for the guy get ahead of what is best for the club. Well to be fair, the best thing for the club is both players gone of course, but in the situation that you have to pick one to stay there cannot be an argument.
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I don't have a personal dislike for Adebayor and would have him gone first - for starters under this manager they both have appalling league records, same minutes more or less and one goal between them so that particular stat is negliable. The sticking point for me is reliability - which can we rely on to be available when called upon? Adebayor can't be relied upon, he just can't - he's played less cup games than Soldado despite having been here twice as long, he dissappeared for long stretches this season, last season and the season prior - the very least you'd want from a 3rd choice striker is to be ready and waiting to take the strain off those in front of him when required, not to be MIA.
Whoevers left will play a handful of league games and lead the line in the EL / League Cup games - if that's Adebayor id wager he'll be available for less than half of those fixtures.