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Emmanuel Adebayor - Officially gone \o/
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Les Ferdinand
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I agree - I know Ade is a striker and I wouldnt have blamed him for taking the shot on. I wouldnt have blamed ANYONE for taking it on especially someone like Dembele who we always talk about should be scoring more goals and creating more opportunities.
I agree - I know Ade is a striker and I wouldnt have blamed him for taking the shot on. I wouldnt have blamed ANYONE for taking it on especially someone like Dembele who we always talk about should be scoring more goals and creating more opportunities.
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Ade this morning...
John Bennett @JohnBennettBBC
No... Apparently he was just playing in an impromptu game near his home. Not international or anything.
Steven LAVON @lasteven04 1h
Just playing along his friends as he used to do everytime he is around in Lome !
Ade this morning...
John Bennett @JohnBennettBBC
No... Apparently he was just playing in an impromptu game near his home. Not international or anything.
Steven LAVON @lasteven04 1h
Just playing along his friends as he used to do everytime he is around in Lome !
Cochise
Steve Carr
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Moussa should've scored or squared it. We need to see more goals from the man and I think eh was right to take on the shot. Ade should'nt have gone made at him, but then again if we hadn't got the third before Bony got one back then the last 10 minutes could've been a different story
Moussa should've scored or squared it. We need to see more goals from the man and I think eh was right to take on the shot. Ade should'nt have gone made at him, but then again if we hadn't got the third before Bony got one back then the last 10 minutes could've been a different story
clevelandspur
Pascal Chimbonda
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I find it odd people are saying Ade is wrong to shout at Moussa for not squaring the ball? It is simple if you don't square it there you must score, if not prepare to hear it from your teammate. As for was Ade wrong to shout at him? Please EVERY match in EVERY league this happens usually on more than one occasion during a match even playing on schoolyard as kids this happens. Don't know why some people are making a big deal of it?
I find it odd people are saying Ade is wrong to shout at Moussa for not squaring the ball? It is simple if you don't square it there you must score, if not prepare to hear it from your teammate. As for was Ade wrong to shout at him? Please EVERY match in EVERY league this happens usually on more than one occasion during a match even playing on schoolyard as kids this happens. Don't know why some people are making a big deal of it?
Papercut
Jermaine Jenas
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I watched it milisecond to milisecond and my thoughts were that Ade was too far forward. That may have been the angle of the camera but I honestly think Ade should have dropped a yard. Moooooouuussssa!!! is not a greedy player so I imagine he wasn't sure either
I watched it milisecond to milisecond and my thoughts were that Ade was too far forward. That may have been the angle of the camera but I honestly think Ade should have dropped a yard. Moooooouuussssa!!! is not a greedy player so I imagine he wasn't sure either
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Mousa should shoot all day. He missed. We won regardless. Lesson? Mousa needs to finish better next time
Mousa should shoot all day. He missed. We won regardless. Lesson? Mousa needs to finish better next time
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
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In a situation where you can either finish yourself and you need a good finish to score by for example placing it in the corner, or you have a dead easy pass to a teammate that will then have the entire goal gaping the decision is pretty easy. The right thing to do is to pass it...
In a situation where you can either finish yourself and you need a good finish to score by for example placing it in the corner, or you have a dead easy pass to a teammate that will then have the entire goal gaping the decision is pretty easy. The right thing to do is to pass it...
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That's not fair that is just a brilliant example lol.
No I'm glad he had a shot because it's one thing he's accused of not doing enough. Ultimately he should finish it,it wasn't a difficult finish really. I see your point, yes whatever results in a sure fire goal should be the opinion that should be taken. But I'm not mad at Dembele for shooting. I'm ****ed at him for missing.
In a situation where you can either finish yourself and you need a good finish to score by for example placing it in the corner, or you have a dead easy pass to a teammate that will then have the entire goal gaping the decision is pretty easy. The right thing to do is to pass it...
That's not fair that is just a brilliant example lol.
No I'm glad he had a shot because it's one thing he's accused of not doing enough. Ultimately he should finish it,it wasn't a difficult finish really. I see your point, yes whatever results in a sure fire goal should be the opinion that should be taken. But I'm not mad at Dembele for shooting. I'm ****ed at him for missing.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
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No wonder he's not shooting more when you're ****ed at him for missing
Maybe if you hadn't showed up at his place and shat in his petunias every time he missed a shot we would have a 15+ goals per season midfielder on our hands!
Edit: And I agree, the Guti example isn't fair. One of my favourite classic football clips really. The awareness, the calmness, it's a meditative experience to watch that clip.
No wonder he's not shooting more when you're ****ed at him for missing
Maybe if you hadn't showed up at his place and shat in his petunias every time he missed a shot we would have a 15+ goals per season midfielder on our hands!Edit: And I agree, the Guti example isn't fair. One of my favourite classic football clips really. The awareness, the calmness, it's a meditative experience to watch that clip.
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Les Ferdinand
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I dont mind players shouting etc - heat of the moment. Dont care if two players argue etc (of course no punching) but debating etc is fine. What me myself im querying is more that dembele should have passed - I dont think he should have passed and was quite right to take it on.
I dont mind players shouting etc - heat of the moment. Dont care if two players argue etc (of course no punching) but debating etc is fine. What me myself im querying is more that dembele should have passed - I dont think he should have passed and was quite right to take it on.
clevelandspur
Pascal Chimbonda
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I don't have a problem with him taking the shot either, it was an easy chance he should have taken. However, when you miss that and a square pass is on he should expect to get some stick
I don't have a problem with him taking the shot either, it was an easy chance he should have taken. However, when you miss that and a square pass is on he should expect to get some stick
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Les Ferdinand
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Im sure he took it too. I think Demele knew. Its a classic situation of hindsight.
Im sure he took it too. I think Demele knew. Its a classic situation of hindsight.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
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A: Estimated chance of scoring by taking the shot.
B: Estimated chance of scoring if the pass is made instead.
If B is greater than A then passing is the right play.
Edit: Nothing to do with hindsight.
A: Estimated chance of scoring by taking the shot.
B: Estimated chance of scoring if the pass is made instead.
If B is greater than A then passing is the right play.
Edit: Nothing to do with hindsight.
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Les Ferdinand
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B is not greater than A or not significantly so that a player bearing down on goal could make a judgement on in a split second. I think if Dembele scored, we wouldnt have people talking about how he should have passed, even if B was greater than A - so there is definitely hindsight involved. We are only debating this because he didnt score.
There are so so so many goals scored where B exceeds A yet no one would bring it up.
B is not greater than A or not significantly so that a player bearing down on goal could make a judgement on in a split second. I think if Dembele scored, we wouldnt have people talking about how he should have passed, even if B was greater than A - so there is definitely hindsight involved. We are only debating this because he didnt score.
There are so so so many goals scored where B exceeds A yet no one would bring it up.
ringo
Tim Sherwood
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Given that my criticism of Dembele is that he doesn't shoot enough, I wasn't that bothered that he was selfish. Unfortunately, though, missing (and the ensuing stick he no doubt got) probably won't do much to encourage him to shoot in the future.
Given that my criticism of Dembele is that he doesn't shoot enough, I wasn't that bothered that he was selfish. Unfortunately, though, missing (and the ensuing stick he no doubt got) probably won't do much to encourage him to shoot in the future.
metalgear
Luka Modric
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mine is on why he doesn't go dribbling into the box to tempt a foul and a penalty.
mine is on why he doesn't go dribbling into the box to tempt a foul and a penalty.
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But it highlights Dembele's main problem, his decision making is ****.
Honestly the guy is a great athlete, shields the ball almost as well as anyone in the game, but ****, so often makes a bad decision (either runs into a wall, shoots when pass on, pass when shot on, etc.), he would be a extremely good player if he had any decision ability.
The big problem I have with the decision is the timing in that game, it was one of those 10 minute spells in the game where if we scored, the game was done, if they scored it was going to be a rough ride, knowing that and knowing the Ade pass was pretty much = goal done, he went the greedy route and failed to put it on target, he deserves stick.
But it highlights Dembele's main problem, his decision making is ****.
Honestly the guy is a great athlete, shields the ball almost as well as anyone in the game, but ****, so often makes a bad decision (either runs into a wall, shoots when pass on, pass when shot on, etc.), he would be a extremely good player if he had any decision ability.
The big problem I have with the decision is the timing in that game, it was one of those 10 minute spells in the game where if we scored, the game was done, if they scored it was going to be a rough ride, knowing that and knowing the Ade pass was pretty much = goal done, he went the greedy route and failed to put it on target, he deserves stick.