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Dominic Solanke

Jurgen the German said:
I read numerous articles about Ange’s teams a good one from the Athletic) last season, the gist of most of them was that Ange’s teams suffer injuries in the first season whilst they get adjusted to his methods, but things return to normal in the second half of the season. That clearly hasn’t happened this season. It can’t just be bad luck 2 seasons in a row. Whilst perhaps it’s unfair to lay the blame on Ange, I think it’s fair to ask why we are still getting so many injuries.
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This isn't a field I know much about at all, but my uneducated theory is that it has to do with the physical level of the PL compared to the other leagues he's managed in.

You have to be at a very high physical level to make it as a PL player, and the strain from high intensity PL games are already very high. Which means there's less gain to be made from increasing fitness, and the margins are smaller - hence it's a thinner line between maximising fitness/game intensity and getting injured.

The injury pile up and reluctance to rotate obviously plays a part as well. But the underlying premise IMO is that it's harder for Ange to avoid injuries with a PL team because of the need to push boundaries on a whole different level than in Oz, Japan and Scotland.

Doesn't mean it can't be done, but we would need a squad full of players better suited to Angeball, and rotate them much more frequently/cleverly. Which is why IMO the club apparently still backs Ange, because we're still in the process of building that squad, but with an emphasis on youth.
 
Robbo said:
This isn't a field I know much about at all, but my uneducated theory is that it has to do with the physical level of the PL compared to the other leagues he's managed in.

You have to be at a very high physical level to make it as a PL player, and the strain from high intensity PL games are already very high. Which means there's less gain to be made from increasing fitness, and the margins are smaller - hence it's a thinner line between maximising fitness/game intensity and getting injured.

The injury pile up and reluctance to rotate obviously plays a part as well. But the underlying premise IMO is that it's harder for Ange to avoid injuries with a PL team because of the need to push boundaries on a whole different level than in Oz, Japan and Scotland.

Doesn't mean it can't be done, but we would need a squad full of players better suited to Angeball, and rotate them much more frequently/cleverly. Which is why IMO the club apparently still backs Ange, because we're still in the process of building that squad, but with an emphasis on youth.
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Cumulative fatigues a thing, you become less robust.

We missed a trick not resting players when we had a chance IMO, no need for Solanke to stay on for some of the games he has.
 
Robbo said:
This isn't a field I know much about at all, but my uneducated theory is that it has to do with the physical level of the PL compared to the other leagues he's managed in.

You have to be at a very high physical level to make it as a PL player, and the strain from high intensity PL games are already very high. Which means there's less gain to be made from increasing fitness, and the margins are smaller - hence it's a thinner line between maximising fitness/game intensity and getting injured.

The injury pile up and reluctance to rotate obviously plays a part as well. But the underlying premise IMO is that it's harder for Ange to avoid injuries with a PL team because of the need to push boundaries on a whole different level than in Oz, Japan and Scotland.

Doesn't mean it can't be done, but we would need a squad full of players better suited to Angeball, and rotate them much more frequently/cleverly. Which is why IMO the club apparently still backs Ange, because we're still in the process of building that squad, but with an emphasis on youth.
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It’s possible in other leagues his teams were up and comfortable and he made changes to keep the rotation
I really don’t know
 
Grays_1890 said:
Cumulative fatigues a thing, you become less robust.

We missed a trick not resting players when we had a chance IMO, no need for Solanke to stay on for some of the games he has.
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We did. There are probably valid reasons why we didn't on some occations, but we've had several opportunities to rest players that we didn't take. Once the injuries started accumulating it became harder and harder to rotate, though.

Bedfordspurs said:
It’s possible in other leagues his teams were up and comfortable and he made changes to keep the rotation
I really don’t know
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Me neither. I don't really know how he did with previous clubs, but seemingly always going a goal behind certainly hasn’t helped us this season. A lot of which have been self inflicted of course.

We have had bad luck with how injuries (and suspensions) have hit our spine this season, though. It has made us more defensively vulnerable (partly in combination with our gung ho approach).

I believe Odobert's injury was also crucial, in the sense that he would've been a proper threat down the left (unlike Son/Werner). That in turn would've given more space and opportunities for us elsewhere on the pitch.
 
Robbo said:
We did. There are probably valid reasons why we didn't on some occations, but we've had several opportunities to rest players that we didn't take. Once the injuries started accumulating it became harder and harder to rotate, though.


Me neither. I don't really know how he did with previous clubs, but seemingly always going a goal behind certainly hasn’t helped us this season. A lot of which have been self inflicted of course.

We have had bad luck with how injuries (and suspensions) have hit our spine this season, though. It has made us more defensively vulnerable (partly in combination with our gung ho approach).

I believe Odobert's injury was also crucial, in the sense that he would've been a proper threat down the left (unlike Son/Werner). That in turn would've given more space and opportunities for us elsewhere on the pitch.
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The latter part is huge and seem to be forgotten or ignored
But if you can’t change players you end up flogging them
Bournemouth keep on getting quoted as the best example of dealing with injuries
I looked at their minutes and a couple of their players are playing every game of their 24 so far
The majority aren’t playing every game for many reasons I’m sure
We have a player like Johnson who have played a part in every game since November 23 and some fans think he is brick…
 
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