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Dear oh dear Ed Milliband, what a joke of a man !!!

Not really directly replying to any post particularly but there were a few posts speculating on the outcome of the next election a few pages back.

I started reading this blog during the Scottish referendum and linked to it at the time. I've kept reading it since and find it really interesting.

I found this highly speculative post a really interesting read. I don't think that the outcome he paints is very likely but the electoral mathematics are really difficult to predict and there aren't any UK precedents we can call back on

http://www.therestlessrealist.com/2014/10/could-ukip-come-second-in-2015.html
 
scaramanga said:
I'd expect those that stand out as being good at their jobs to get promoted into more secure ones.

How do you know they are all good at their jobs? I don't bank with Barclays and never have to go into branches for personal banking, but on very rare occasions I've had to go into Lloyds branches on business and not all cashiers are created equal. There is clearly some variation in how good or bad they are.

I'd also expect any intelligent person to know that their job is becoming extinct and start some kind of retraining to cover it. Please don't try to tell me that any of those cashiers have never heard of internet banking, or that they couldn't make the pretty small leap in understanding more internet banking = fewer cashiers.



As the husband of someone who (until recently) was a state school teacher for over 10 years I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that teaching assistants are more of a hindrance than a help. Other than in the very rare cases where a teaching assistant is generally very good (ask any teacher - almost never) or very specifically trained to deal with a particular problem one or two students may have (Asperger's, speech impediments, etc), most teachers simply don't want them in the classroom.

That's an opinion I've heard from a good number of teachers and most of them are from your end of the political spectrum (as you'd expect with that kind of vocation).



Wow, you union types really are fun vacuums aren't you!?

I get that you don't think socialism is what I think it is. I get that in your head it's all unicorns and kittens in socialism land, but that's simply not the case for the rest of the country. Here in the real world, we've voted for (or at least thought we did) right of centre, capitalist governments for more than a generation. There are people who are old enough to be council estate grandparents who've never seen a government that claims to be left of centre.

If the king of the autists manages to convince the country that this is where he sits on the political spectrum then he stands a decent chance of becoming the next Prime Minister. That won't be too much of a problem though as he'll need to stay somewhat within the boundaries set by his party's manifesto and they simply won't get voted in on one that stands left of centre.
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You seem to keep picking on this autistic/ aspegergers angle. Not only is it personal, disrespectful and pretty disgusting (along with your use of the word 'depart') but it's utterly macaronic and only makes you look more of a prick than the rest of the ignorance you display.
 
Craig_J said:
You seem to keep picking on this autistic/ aspegergers angle. Not only is it personal, disrespectful and pretty disgusting (along with your use of the word 'depart') but it's utterly macaronic and only makes you look more of a prick than the rest of the ignorance you display.
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You seem to take offence very easily - is that something talking your problems/issues through would help with? I'll happily try if you like but I have to warn you, my attention span is incredibly short and I might just stop responding to you to go and do something more interesting.

Anyway, onto some real factual stuff. Autism is a scale (commonly mentioned as a spectrum) along which most men will find themselves. Some women too, but it's far more prevalent in men. So to some extent, almost all men could be described as autistic - those further down the scale (or spectrum, if you prefer) will always appear to be "more autistic" to those of us less far down the scale.

Milibland certainly shows a number of the symptoms of being a good way along the scale and a few of those that would lead to a diagnosis of Asperger's too. Take a look at this link - http://www.autism.org.uk/asperger and tell me honestly that you don't think he matches at least a few of those symptoms.

Anyway, it's time to open another bottle of wine, so here endeth the lesson - let me know if you need to talk those short temper issues through.
 
scaramanga said:
You seem to take offence very easily - is that something talking your problems/issues through would help with? I'll happily try if you like but I have to warn you, my attention span is incredibly short and I might just stop responding to you to go and do something more interesting.

Anyway, onto some real factual stuff. Autism is a scale (commonly mentioned as a spectrum) along which most men will find themselves. Some women too, but it's far more prevalent in men. So to some extent, almost all men could be described as autistic - those further down the scale (or spectrum, if you prefer) will always appear to be "more autistic" to those of us less far down the scale.

Milibland certainly shows a number of the symptoms of being a good way along the scale and a few of those that would lead to a diagnosis of Asperger's too. Take a look at this link - http://www.autism.org.uk/asperger and tell me honestly that you don't think he matches at least a few of those symptoms.

Anyway, it's time to open another bottle of wine, so here endeth the lesson - let me know if you need to talk those short temper issues through.
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I can never tell if you are just trolling the entire forum, like you made this place just to wind people up :lol:
 
the dza said:
I can never tell if you are just trolling the entire forum, like you made this place just to wind people up :lol:
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No trollin', just really don't care how others feel about me and a penchant for being honest to a fault!
 
milo said:
Not really directly replying to any post particularly but there were a few posts speculating on the outcome of the next election a few pages back.

I started reading this blog during the Scottish referendum and linked to it at the time. I've kept reading it since and find it really interesting.

I found this highly speculative post a really interesting read. I don't think that the outcome he paints is very likely but the electoral mathematics are really difficult to predict and there aren't any UK precedents we can call back on

http://www.therestlessrealist.com/2014/10/could-ukip-come-second-in-2015.html
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interesting, I'm gonna re-read that sober tomorrow

what I will say now though is that the scot referendum leaves me positive about our next election, even with the chance to do the easy nationalistic thing people voted with their heads and (rightly) prioritised the economy, bodes well when the options are ed balls, the Tories, or a protest vote for the racists
 
scaramanga said:
You seem to take offence very easily - is that something talking your problems/issues through would help with? I'll happily try if you like but I have to warn you, my attention span is incredibly short and I might just stop responding to you to go and do something more interesting.

Anyway, onto some real factual stuff. Autism is a scale (commonly mentioned as a spectrum) along which most men will find themselves. Some women too, but it's far more prevalent in men. So to some extent, almost all men could be described as autistic - those further down the scale (or spectrum, if you prefer) will always appear to be "more autistic" to those of us less far down the scale.

Milibland certainly shows a number of the symptoms of being a good way along the scale and a few of those that would lead to a diagnosis of Asperger's too. Take a look at this link - http://www.autism.org.uk/asperger and tell me honestly that you don't think he matches at least a few of those symptoms.

Anyway, it's time to open another bottle of wine, so here endeth the lesson - let me know if you need to talk those short temper issues through.
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I don't really have a short temper, in fact those who know me always mention I'm the most laid back person they know. But on this board there may be people with autistics or kids with downs syndrome in their family. To use that as a derogatory insult (You'll probably deny this but you clearly are) is sickening. Anyhow, if Miliband is autistic or has asbergers (I doubt he does, he may have soical anxiety at a stretch) then I really couldn't give a toss as there's many autistic geniuses much smarter than I or you (added emphasis on the you) could ever hope to be.
 
Craig_J said:
I don't really have a short temper, in fact those who know me always mention I'm the most laid back person they know. But on this board there may be people with autistics or kids with downs syndrome in their family. To use that as a derogatory insult (You'll probably deny this but you clearly are) is sickening.
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Why are they free from insult? Nobody else is. Maybe someone might want to insult me because of my chiselled jaw or because I have a c0ck that could knock out a donkey - I'll take it.

Craig_J said:
Anyhow, if Miliband is autistic or has asbergers (I doubt he does, he may have soical anxiety at a stretch) then I really couldn't give a toss as there's many autistic geniuses much smarter than I or you (added emphasis on the you) could ever hope to be.
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I'll call a draw with the smartest ones - you can compare them to yourself however you like.
 
scaramanga said:
The irony's not lost on me.

There is a small but important distinction though. I know and comprehend those feelings that people have, I just lack the empathy to give a ****.
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Again a classic aspergers sydrome... Actually, with your derogatory comments about people with the illness and the symptoms you display it wouldn't surprise me if you know you have the symptoms and therefore resent it.
 
Craig_J said:
Again a classic aspergers sydrome... Actually, with your derogatory comments about people with the illness and the symptoms you display it wouldn't surprise me if you know you have the symptoms and therefore resent it.
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I think that maybe you should read that link I posted a couple above yours there.

Knowing and comprehending the feelings of others is pretty much the definition of not Asperger's :ross:

Still, don't let little things like facts get in the way of a good taking offence on someone else's behalf mission!
 
scaramanga said:
I think that maybe you should read that link I posted a couple above yours there.

Knowing and comprehending the feelings of others is pretty much the definition of not Asperger's :ross:

Still, don't let little things like facts get in the way of a good taking offence on someone else's behalf mission!
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So you're a narcissist instead? Something which is very much being considered in recent years to be a sub-category of autism? Doesn't look good for you either way mate.
 
Craig_J said:
So you're a narcissist instead? Something which is very much being considered in recent years to be a sub-category of autism? Doesn't look good for you either way mate.
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Actually I'm a narcissist with non-violent psychopathic tendencies if you want to be really precise about it. And still, your understanding of autism is way off. I'm not sure where you're getting your information from, but narcissism involves an understanding of self that is simply not available to those further along the autism scale. Again, you've described something that is the polar opposite of autism and claimed it as autism.
 
Aspergers is a mild form of autism. Autism includes being slavishly devoted to routine, I know this first hand as my cousin has watched Beauty And The Beast every time he has visited my house since he was a kid, he's now in his 20s. You can't even have a conversation with him that's how bad his autism is. He's also quite aggresive to the point where my auntie can't look after him on her own as he physiclally overpowers her.

On a different note, I did find it amusing when David Cameron had a pop at Milliband for forgeting parts of his speech. Not a good look I accept, but coming from someone who left his child in a pub, it did sound just a tad hypocritical. Surely forgetting your child is worse? I'd love to see how the tories on the forum spin that one :lol:
 
Jurgen the German said:
Aspergers is a mild form of autism. Autism includes being slavishly devoted to routine, I know this first hand as my cousin has watched Beauty And The Beast every time he has visited my house since he was a kid, he's now in his 20s. You can't even have a conversation with him that's how bad his autism is. He's also quite aggresive to the point where my auntie can't look after him on her own as he physiclally overpowers her.

On a different note, I did find it amusing when David Cameron had a pop at Milliband for forgeting parts of his speech. Not a good look I accept, but coming from someone who left his child in a pub, it did sound just a tad hypocritical. Surely forgetting your child is worse? I'd love to see how the tories on the forum spin that one :lol:
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It's the wife's job?
 
scaramanga said:
Actually I'm a narcissist with non-violent psychopathic tendencies if you want to be really precise about it. And still, your understanding of autism is way off. I'm not sure where you're getting your information from, but narcissism involves an understanding of self that is simply not available to those further along the autism scale. Again, you've described something that is the polar opposite of autism and claimed it as autism.
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I'm pretty sure that narcissism will in time be shown to be a form of autism. You say that narcisim involves "an understanding of self that is simply not available to those further along the autism scale." but surelly it involves a huge disunderstanding of themselves as more than likely they will have 130 years max on this planet after which they will be dead and no one will remember them but in the mean time they think they're the most (or one of) important person in the world. E.g. Sol Campbell
 
Craig_J said:
I'm pretty sure that narcissism will in time be shown to be a form of autism. You say that narcisim involves "an understanding of self that is simply not available to those further along the autism scale." but surelly it involves a huge disunderstanding of themselves as more than likely they will have 130 years max on this planet after which they will be dead and no one will remember them but in the mean time they think they're the most (or one of) important person in the world. E.g. Sol Campbell
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Not at all. Take it from someone who knows very, very well - narcissism and autism, whilst sometimes misdiagnosed as each other very early in life, are polar opposites.

All narcissists can self-diagnose their condition (if you want to call it that). They know they're narcissists but choose not to give a **** because of a level of circular logic that essentially translates as "I'm a narcissist, I'm ****ing incredible, therefore being a narcissist is incredible".

It's just not even vaguely related to autism, it's no more likely to be shown to be a form of autism than lung cancer is. The only thing the two have in common is that they are regarded to both be medical disorders (although I disagree in the case of narcissism).
 
Scara, I'm going to get involved in this abomination of a thread purely because of previous posts. Are you sure you don't have Aspergers? Or at least checked yourself out for it?
 
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