Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
Re: Andre Villas-Boas - Head Coach
What does that have to do with SPURS going out and strenghthening the squad?
What does that have to do with SPURS going out and strenghthening the squad?
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Daniel Levy's Transfer Policy Revealed
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braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Re: Andre Villas-Boas - Head Coach
Aren't these players you're mentioning as examples of strikers that have been signed by clubs that have been affordable and good enough?
Aren't these players you're mentioning as examples of strikers that have been signed by clubs that have been affordable and good enough?
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
Re: Andre Villas-Boas - Head Coach
They are not the only two players in world football who cost that sort of money you know. We got Berbatov for just over £10m.
You mentioned Cisse, I actually don't rate him and never did even he was scoring for fun last season.
They are not the only two players in world football who cost that sort of money you know. We got Berbatov for just over £10m.
You mentioned Cisse, I actually don't rate him and never did even he was scoring for fun last season.
Re: Andre Villas-Boas - Head Coach
We strengthened in the summer. Now one player is out of form (and away at the moment) and one is possibly injured we can't just go out and buy someone to cover for a few weeks. It would have to be a loan unless we can get a player we consider to be a long term solution.
We strengthened in the summer. Now one player is out of form (and away at the moment) and one is possibly injured we can't just go out and buy someone to cover for a few weeks. It would have to be a loan unless we can get a player we consider to be a long term solution.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Re: Andre Villas-Boas - Head Coach
No, but they are players you've been mentioning or been alluding to.
No, but they are players you've been mentioning or been alluding to.
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
Re: Andre Villas-Boas - Head Coach
It is a gamble. Both those clubs took went out and bought strikers and it paid off in the short term. Now I'm not saying we should go out and buy a striker every time one of ours gets in a sticky patch, but I believe we've shot ourselves in the foot in previous seasons by not strentghening in the January window and fear we are making the same mistake again.
It is a gamble. Both those clubs took went out and bought strikers and it paid off in the short term. Now I'm not saying we should go out and buy a striker every time one of ours gets in a sticky patch, but I believe we've shot ourselves in the foot in previous seasons by not strentghening in the January window and fear we are making the same mistake again.
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
Re: Ratings Vs Leeds
I think we need both a striker AND a creative midfielder, looks like Holtby is the man so at least that's one problem solved. Obviously were not privy to the negotiations, but from the outside looking in, it would have been nice to see us move for Moutinho sooner rather than on the last day but this debate has raged on GG for years as to Levy's tactics so no point going over them again.
I think we need both a striker AND a creative midfielder, looks like Holtby is the man so at least that's one problem solved. Obviously were not privy to the negotiations, but from the outside looking in, it would have been nice to see us move for Moutinho sooner rather than on the last day but this debate has raged on GG for years as to Levy's tactics so no point going over them again.
Modric THFC
Jimmy McCormick
Re: Andre Villas-Boas - Head Coach
And none of it has anything to do with "Andre Villas-Boas - Head Coach" neither even with all the merging of threads that goes on here.
And none of it has anything to do with "Andre Villas-Boas - Head Coach" neither even with all the merging of threads that goes on here.
Spursalot
Jimmy McCormick
Re: Andre Villas-Boas - Head Coach
Yeah, since the Fa cup loss everything in here has either been chairman or financial talk..
Quite amusing..
They get the chance to start a new thread and then spend the time talking in a thread the topic bears little relevance to instead.
Yeah, since the Fa cup loss everything in here has either been chairman or financial talk..
Quite amusing..
They get the chance to start a new thread and then spend the time talking in a thread the topic bears little relevance to instead.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Re: Andre Villas-Boas - Head Coach
That's true, and not all gambles are worth taking.
Our manager says that he's satisfied with our squad.
Our chairman has a history of spending the money that's available to spend.
If the two of them working with the scouts and the rest of the backroom staff think that they find a player worth gambling on then I would trust them to have made a reasonable decision. Similarly, if they don't think that the right gamble is available then I will trust that to be a reasonable decision.
That's true, and not all gambles are worth taking.
Our manager says that he's satisfied with our squad.
Our chairman has a history of spending the money that's available to spend.
If the two of them working with the scouts and the rest of the backroom staff think that they find a player worth gambling on then I would trust them to have made a reasonable decision. Similarly, if they don't think that the right gamble is available then I will trust that to be a reasonable decision.
Re: Andre Villas-Boas - Head Coach
I think it's based on the idea that Levy will sack AVB and it will be because Levy didn't buy him the players he needed. And the fact that people love a good moan, especially on the subject of our transfer activity. Maybe that general football thread isn't such a bad idea. Maybe separate ones for moaning and chatting/discussing.
Yeah, since the Fa cup loss everything in here has either been chairman or financial talk..
Quite amusing..
They get the chance to start a new thread and then spend the time talking in a thread the topic bears little relevance to instead.
I think it's based on the idea that Levy will sack AVB and it will be because Levy didn't buy him the players he needed. And the fact that people love a good moan, especially on the subject of our transfer activity. Maybe that general football thread isn't such a bad idea. Maybe separate ones for moaning and chatting/discussing.
thfcsteff
George Hunt
Re: Andre Villas-Boas - Head Coach
Are you suggesting I gave you one? I've never given you an official warning, I have sent PMs with suggestions/we have exchanged some back and forth.
Are you suggesting I gave you one? I've never given you an official warning, I have sent PMs with suggestions/we have exchanged some back and forth.
thfcsteff
George Hunt
Re: Andre Villas-Boas - Head Coach
Aside from the drum I keep on banging about cashflow this window, THIS is the point. And unless we can strengthen with a REAL striker, I personally do not want us spending 10-15 mill on a 'stop-gap squad striker' which will end up possibly costing us this summer! If we can get a short-term loan in, fine, if we can get Papa L to cough up and storm the deadline day for the real deal, fantastic.
But aside from all of that, when you buy big, the whole club shifts in terms of wages, etc, and we need to be sure we can keep up with that. It's unfortunate but it's a fact.
Aside from the drum I keep on banging about cashflow this window, THIS is the point. And unless we can strengthen with a REAL striker, I personally do not want us spending 10-15 mill on a 'stop-gap squad striker' which will end up possibly costing us this summer! If we can get a short-term loan in, fine, if we can get Papa L to cough up and storm the deadline day for the real deal, fantastic.
But aside from all of that, when you buy big, the whole club shifts in terms of wages, etc, and we need to be sure we can keep up with that. It's unfortunate but it's a fact.
thfcsteff
George Hunt
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Cheers to whatever mod moved my posts here and sorry about taking that other thread off topic.
It won't happen again (today).
It won't happen again (today).
Notmegov
Roman Pavlyuchenko
Stop talking sence there is no place for that kind of thing here.
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indianspur
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Re: Andre Villas-Boas - Head Coach
Another transfer window is drawing to a disappointing close of relative failure (in terms of consolidating our 4th spot) - another swarm of Levy apologists pedalling the same old tired excuses and hollow propaganda of how 'it's ok because Arsenal only have Walcott (who has been better than any of our strikers this season btw!)', 'It's dangerous to buy an expensive striker because he might get injured', 'We are completely fudging broke', 'There is no one out there for us except Falcao and Cavani', etc. and similar clichés which have been doing the rounds, in one form or another ever since Comolli left.
The bottom line for me remains (as outlined in another thread earlier)
- unless Levy is willing to provide AVB the necessary tools for the job, perhaps he needs to drop his seasons objectives lower and simply accept we will NEVER be able to mount a continuous 4th place presence.
- seriously re-evaluate our scouting staff performance and objectives in terms of looking for talent overseas - teams such as Wigan and Swansea who operate on a fraction of our turnover have brought it some great players from South America / Southern Europe over the years (and also sold for a good profit) - yet we are being linked with SPL units and Stoke City rejects.
- not sure how Moutinho's alleged £20m+ bid only a few months ago suddenly translates into complete and utter lack of buying power into this window, while we are busy negotaiting over thousands! (not millions) over Holtby's transfer, seeing that Sandro is out for the season and he could well be our most important player. Thousands!
I know there will be viscous attack on me for this post (which would further prove the lack of objectivity when it come to DL debates) and for those who bother reading as far as this before reaching for the pitchforks and stones - I think Levy has done a brilliant job and wouldn't swap him for anyone but he might have to re-evaluate his transfer policy of 'younger players for profit' and perhaps consider mounting a substantial challenge now that he likes to talk the talk with AVB's 'long term' project and appointment. If Arry wasn't seen as the right man to be given the keys - well, it's now been 10 years so this should be the best chance to date, imv (AVB-wise)
Another transfer window is drawing to a disappointing close of relative failure (in terms of consolidating our 4th spot) - another swarm of Levy apologists pedalling the same old tired excuses and hollow propaganda of how 'it's ok because Arsenal only have Walcott (who has been better than any of our strikers this season btw!)', 'It's dangerous to buy an expensive striker because he might get injured', 'We are completely fudging broke', 'There is no one out there for us except Falcao and Cavani', etc. and similar clichés which have been doing the rounds, in one form or another ever since Comolli left.
The bottom line for me remains (as outlined in another thread earlier)
- unless Levy is willing to provide AVB the necessary tools for the job, perhaps he needs to drop his seasons objectives lower and simply accept we will NEVER be able to mount a continuous 4th place presence.
- seriously re-evaluate our scouting staff performance and objectives in terms of looking for talent overseas - teams such as Wigan and Swansea who operate on a fraction of our turnover have brought it some great players from South America / Southern Europe over the years (and also sold for a good profit) - yet we are being linked with SPL units and Stoke City rejects.
- not sure how Moutinho's alleged £20m+ bid only a few months ago suddenly translates into complete and utter lack of buying power into this window, while we are busy negotaiting over thousands! (not millions) over Holtby's transfer, seeing that Sandro is out for the season and he could well be our most important player. Thousands!
I know there will be viscous attack on me for this post (which would further prove the lack of objectivity when it come to DL debates) and for those who bother reading as far as this before reaching for the pitchforks and stones - I think Levy has done a brilliant job and wouldn't swap him for anyone but he might have to re-evaluate his transfer policy of 'younger players for profit' and perhaps consider mounting a substantial challenge now that he likes to talk the talk with AVB's 'long term' project and appointment. If Arry wasn't seen as the right man to be given the keys - well, it's now been 10 years so this should be the best chance to date, imv (AVB-wise)
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Noé Pamarot
Not at all mate you ask some decent questions which I along with others would like answering. My main gripe is people constantly with this whole next window next window mentality. If we've got ambition we'll sign good players whenever.