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Daniel Levy - Chairman

Levy has hired a director of football, or whatever it is called this year (as he has many times before over the years). He's gone through all kinds of managers to set us up for success, but all have failed. He has bought a lot of expensive players, and we arguably spend more than other teams on players now - all thanks to how well we're run economically. He built the greatest stadium in the world that makes brickloads for us.

What exactly is it, according to the haters, that he does wrong? Is he just someone who sits at the top and is therefore easy to blame? What chairman that you know of does a better job? And how?

I just don't get the Levy hate everytime we're bad. What exactly is he doing wrong? How could anyone do it any better? Is he just hiring the wrong people? Is that it?
 
I guess if there is a valid criticism it might be that even now, we are not spending enough. Solanke looks an excellent purchase. But if we are to challenge, we need more "players for now". And that means not signing Werner but paying more for the version of Werner who also scores. Buying players for the future, like Bergvall, is a risk. He's clearly not ready to play for the first team but he occupies a first team space. Watching the Jose video, and the names on the park for Inter and for Barcelona, or indeed the players on Galatasaray's team, you realise what the gulf is from our first 11 to a truly competitive first 11.
 
Daisuk said:
Levy has hired a director of football, or whatever it is called this year (as he has many times before over the years). He's gone through all kinds of managers to set us up for success, but all have failed. He has bought a lot of expensive players, and we arguably spend more than other teams on players now - all thanks to how well we're run economically. He built the greatest stadium in the world that makes brickloads for us.

What exactly is it, according to the haters, that he does wrong? Is he just someone who sits at the top and is therefore easy to blame? What chairman that you know of does a better job? And how?

I just don't get the Levy hate everytime we're bad. What exactly is he doing wrong? How could anyone do it any better? Is he just hiring the wrong people? Is that it?
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As has been said many times, he’s a great chairman in terms of the commercial side, not so much on the football side. He’s been at the club 20 years, it’s time for a change. How many top companies have someone in charge for 20+ years? Kinda stating the obvious but he runs the club so he is responsible when we are successful and when we are not.
 
Jurgen the German said:
As has been said many times, he’s a great chairman in terms of the commercial side, not so much on the football side. He’s been at the club 20 years, it’s time for a change. How many top companies have someone in charge for 20+ years? Kinda stating the obvious but he runs the club so he is responsible when we are successful and when we are not.
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I've heard it mooted that Levy's successor will be a Levy. Has he been grooming his own son for years to take over at the helm?
 
Daisuk said:
Levy has hired a director of football, or whatever it is called this year (as he has many times before over the years). He's gone through all kinds of managers to set us up for success, but all have failed. He has bought a lot of expensive players, and we arguably spend more than other teams on players now - all thanks to how well we're run economically. He built the greatest stadium in the world that makes brickloads for us.

What exactly is it, according to the haters, that he does wrong? Is he just someone who sits at the top and is therefore easy to blame? What chairman that you know of does a better job? And how?

I just don't get the Levy hate everytime we're bad. What exactly is he doing wrong? How could anyone do it any better? Is he just hiring the wrong people? Is that it?
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He’s obviously done outstanding things on the commercial side, and in raising our profile worldwide.

As others have said, though, there have been way too many poor decisions on the footballing side. Constantly giving managers players other than those they really want; failing to make the push to the next footballing level when we’ve been well placed to do so (have we really moved on in that area since the switch to the new stadium?); a lack of long-term planning, which has seen us career from managers with a particular style to others who play in a completely different way…

Recent specific examples for me of how our decision making at the top level continues to be flawed would be our failure to replace Kane for an entire season, and the re-signing of Werner, a player who I feel really symbolises our acceptance of the ‘that’ll do’ mentality that doesn’t exist at clubs which really are top level. The current squad is unbalanced, and we have been crying out for a leader on the pitch for years, but yet we still don’t have one.

I do understand it’s complex, though, and I don’t really want to be owned by serial human rights abusers or Elon F ucking Musk.
 
Mikey10 said:
He’s obviously done outstanding things on the commercial side, and in raising our profile worldwide.

As others have said, though, there have been way too many poor decisions on the footballing side. Constantly giving managers players other than those they really want; failing to make the push to the next footballing level when we’ve been well placed to do so (have we really moved on in that area since the switch to the new stadium?); a lack of long-term planning, which has seen us career from managers with a particular style to others who play in a completely different way…

Recent specific examples for me of how our decision making at the top level continues to be flawed would be our failure to replace Kane for an entire season, and the re-signing of Werner, a player who I feel really symbolises our acceptance of the ‘that’ll do’ mentality which doesn’t exist at clubs which really are top level. The current squad is unbalanced, and we have been crying out for a leader on the pitch for years but still don’t have one.

I do understand it’s complex, though, and I don’t really want to be owned by serial human rights abusers or Elon F ucking Musk.
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It’s why I’d back pool to win the title
They have several
City do too
Arsenal don’t and neither do we
Don’t think Chelsea do now either
 
lurker of old said:
I guess if there is a valid criticism it might be that even now, we are not spending enough. Solanke looks an excellent purchase. But if we are to challenge, we need more "players for now". And that means not signing Werner but paying more for the version of Werner who also scores. Buying players for the future, like Bergvall, is a risk. He's clearly not ready to play for the first team but he occupies a first team space. Watching the Jose video, and the names on the park for Inter and for Barcelona, or indeed the players on Galatasaray's team, you realise what the gulf is from our first 11 to a truly competitive first 11.
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We've been consistenly one of the biggest spenders. The type of player that we need to challenege and is ready now command really big fees and are most likely going to have more attractive offers than us. Our best route if to buy players before they become the ready made player that the big boys will snap up.
 
DubSpur said:
We've been consistenly one of the biggest spenders. The type of player that we need to challenege and is ready now command really big fees and are most likely going to have more attractive offers than us. Our best route if to buy players before they become the ready made player that the big boys will snap up.
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And no team other than city have gone big until they address their other issues first
I don’t doubt Chelsea and United because they didn’t know what they were doing
 
Going big isn't the answer anymore, its about systems and squads.

The best player in the PL right now is probably Haaland, but even he can't make up for Guardiola's tactical meltdowns.
 
Mikey10 said:
He’s obviously done outstanding things on the commercial side, and in raising our profile worldwide.

As others have said, though, there have been way too many poor decisions on the footballing side. Constantly giving managers players other than those they really want; failing to make the push to the next footballing level when we’ve been well placed to do so (have we really moved on in that area since the switch to the new stadium?); a lack of long-term planning, which has seen us career from managers with a particular style to others who play in a completely different way…

Recent specific examples for me of how our decision making at the top level continues to be flawed would be our failure to replace Kane for an entire season, and the re-signing of Werner, a player who I feel really symbolises our acceptance of the ‘that’ll do’ mentality that doesn’t exist at clubs which really are top level. The current squad is unbalanced, and we have been crying out for a leader on the pitch for years, but yet we still don’t have one.

I do understand it’s complex, though, and I don’t really want to be owned by serial human rights abusers or Elon F ucking Musk.
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We've had several directors of football or similar ever since Comolli came in mid 2000's. Isn't it their job to take care of the footballing side of things? What do we really know about how much Levy decides over footballing matters? What do we really know about how much money we have for signing players? What do we really know about players we tried to sign but couldn't for whatever reason? All teams more or less try to sign players and fail. We all want a "leader" in our team, but do you think we've just neglected that or failed to sign one, or perhaps the managers we've had thought they had signed one or simply wanted someone else?

I'm obviously not saying Levy is some untouchable saint, but I fail to see how everything is his fault whenever we are bad. Let's say we bring another guy in, with a bigger ego, who definitely wants to have a say in everything, would that be better? What kind of profile of chairman are we after? I think it all sounds a bit abstract for the common fan to really grasp, as we don't really know how things work.
 
Daisuk said:
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No one has ever disputed he’s a genius when it comes to the commercial side of the game. In fact, I myself and many others have said many times he’s great at that side of things, it’s the football side where he lets himself down. The monetary side is great but that’s not why we support the team after all is it.
 
Unless you're gonna be bankrolled by a benefactor, increasing the clubs money making abilities is key to any hope of long term sustained success - we've only been on the map financially for the last couple of years, so it's now down to the club to turn that in to something tangible.
 
billyiddo said:
Unless you're gonna be bankrolled by a benefactor, increasing the clubs money making abilities is key to any hope of long term sustained success - we've only been on the map financially for the last couple of years, so it's now down to the club to turn that in to something tangible.
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This last summer was their chance to at least look like that was their plan. Instead it felt a bit deja-vu and much like the transfer window of summer 2004: looks of promising players that make sense in building a squad for long-term 'sustainability' but did not look like one where the aim was to go for a title challenge etc.
Take away Solanke (who could be argued was a year too late after banking the Kane fees) who else was bought to actually play in the first team?
We knew we needed a LCB and a LB to take the strain off both MVDV and Udogie, but who did we attempt to buy to fill in that glaring vulnerability? Instead we seem to have asked Ange to make do with Spence (who wasn't wanted by a previous manager).
We seemingly tried for Neto but instead seemingly get gazumped by Chelsea despite them going to a different model to when RA was there. Again, such profitability for us didn't seem to help there. We ended up with Odebert. A lot of potential but again, was that a buy to win now?

I really don't see much change in the way we operate, in terms of pushing to challenge the likes of Arsenal, Emirates Marketing Project, Liverpool etc, rather than challenge for top 4/5 places, which i've always felt the owners were much more comfortable with as it's much more profitable.
 
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