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Coronavirus

Grays_1890 said:
All over by March then, plans to lift all restrictions, scrap testing and isolation
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That does feel about right, pending any significant new strains over winter.

As much as I hate the Tories and despise a lot of the choices they have made, I am glad we had a Tory govt at this time. They have been bullish in pushing for a state of vaccinated normality.

Come March next year we should pretty much know exactly where we stand in life again.
 
Daily testing 36,517 today. 2k less than yesterday but 6k up on last sunday. Patients in hospital down slightly again as is patients admitted. Deaths flat at 63 compared to last week.

Next fridays ons figures will be interesting. The symptom study keeps showing a fall yet the daily tests are going up. More asymptomatic infection? Or kids/parents pouring orange juice to get a week off (and a £500 payment)?
 
Gutter Boy said:
What restrictions are still on? I haven't noticed any since I used to have to write someone else's phone number down to get into a pub in about April.
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Mask wearing in health premises.
Mask wearing on TFL transport
Isolation if testing positive
Red list / Green list countries
LFT on return from overseas travel

All can be circumvented for those who can’t be bothered/are non-socially responsible but they are nonetheless restrictions still in place.
 
Glenda's Legs said:
Mask wearing in health premises.
Mask wearing on TFL transport
Isolation if testing positive
Red list / Green list countries
LFT on return from overseas travel

All can be circumvented for those who can’t be bothered/are non-socially responsible but they are nonetheless restrictions still in place.
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Fair enough. I've not really engaged with any of those, except getting the tube from St Pancras to WHL a few times (where about 20% were wearing masks, which higher than the 0% who had been on the train into London)
 
Gutter Boy said:
I don't see how roughly 1,000,000 people a week have been infected for about the last 80 weeks, with a population of 67,000,000
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They haven't. But there are reinfections also. The ons figures are a little lower at over 900k but that's just england and wales. This is by far the biggest wave. Just vaccines doing their job.

https://covid.joinzoe.com/data

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...es/articles/coronaviruscovid19/latestinsights

Last month 1 in 10 kids were infected.
 
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Glenda's Legs said:
Mask wearing in health premises.
Mask wearing on TFL transport
Isolation if testing positive
Red list / Green list countries
LFT on return from overseas travel

All can be circumvented for those who can’t be bothered/are non-socially responsible but they are nonetheless restrictions still in place.
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I'd keep mask wearing on health premesis. Which some might find strange as i was against keeping masks for shops and pubs (it wouldn't help, especially with delta). But for hospitals i think can lower the risk to patients of other viruses.
 
Lilbaz said:
I'd keep mask wearing on health premesis. Which some might find strange as i was against keeping masks for shops and pubs (it wouldn't help, especially with delta). But for hospitals i think can lower the risk to patients of other viruses.
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Yes, I do think there is sense in that, especially in common areas such as waiting rooms. But I do think that 1:1 with a GP/consultant etc. you should be able to dispense with a mask (or at least the professional should be able to dispense with their mask, assuming they will have tested, even if the patient can't). I'm not especially hard of hearing, apart from what comes with age, but even last week when I went for my booster I had to keep saying "pardon" "pardon" to the nurse asking me questions because she sounded muffled behind her mask.
 
Glenda's Legs said:
Yes, I do think there is sense in that, especially in common areas such as waiting rooms. But I do think that 1:1 with a GP/consultant etc. you should be able to dispense with a mask (or at least the professional should be able to dispense with their mask, assuming they will have tested, even if the patient can't). I'm not especially hard of hearing, apart from what comes with age, but even last week when I went for my booster I had to keep saying "pardon" "pardon" to the nurse asking me questions because she sounded muffled behind her mask.
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Agree. My mother has hearing aids, can't understand anything if they are wearing a mask.
 
Lilbaz said:
I'd keep mask wearing on health premesis. Which some might find strange as i was against keeping masks for shops and pubs (it wouldn't help, especially with delta). But for hospitals i think can lower the risk to patients of other viruses.
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I think you'd probably want to differentiate between places like cancer and old people wards, vs sitting in A&E for 7 hours with the drunks and sport injuries because no-one can get a GP appointment anymore. There's kind of the serious/steril bits of health services and the usual pleb bits where it's just tinkling into the wind
 
Lilbaz said:
Agree. My mother has hearing aids, can't understand anything if they are wearing a mask.
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One of my favourite observations at the moment is how the last few pockets of mask wearers continually have to resort to taking them off and then bending underneath the Perspex screens to shout at whoever can't hear them. The proximity plus shouting probably makes it 10 times worse than if they hadn't bothered to start with
 
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