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Lilbaz said:
In england not any longer. Number of people in hospital with covid is falling.

Europe has 4 problems. The 3 week gap between vaccinations (rather than 3 months in the uk) gives less protection that wanes faster. They kept restrictions too long, so now with winter coming everyone in doors, low vit d they are seeing a massive peak. (Uk has had between 40-50k a day for 4 months now, they are getting all those numbers in one go). They have unvaccinated that have had no exposure so no immunity. They also are very slow at rolling out boosters.

It's a perfect storm at the worst time possible. They fudged up big time. Now they have to put in more restrictions or their health systems could buckle.
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Is that really true though?

The Netherlands, for example, is set to go into some form of lockdown, they have rising cases. But i'm sure a few weeks back on here someone posted a tweet about how much vaccination western Europe (including the Netherlands) had done compared to the East.
Also, i'm pretty sure the Netherlands opened up before we did, though i'm happy to be corrected on that.

Many weeks ago Western Europe was neing envied by commentators and that the UK was a 'basket case' etc in terms of how much vaccination had been given out etc.
 
AuroRaman said:
@Bullet and here’s the fact check

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSL2N2OD2CJ
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I love the Fact-checkers!:D

Did you read both the technical briefing and this fact check (which relates to a much earlier technical briefing)?

Looking simply at the number of people dying from the delta variant the majority of those who died were fully vaccinated. If the majority of those who were dying from the delta variant were those unvaccinated, do you think we wouldn't be hearing about it?
The format of these technical briefings changed after number 23; I do wonder why..
 
glorygloryeze said:
I love the Fact-checkers!:D

Did you read both the technical briefing and this fact check (which relates to a much earlier technical briefing)?

Looking simply at the number of people dying from the delta variant the majority of those who died were fully vaccinated. If the majority of those who were dying from the delta variant were those unvaccinated, do you think we wouldn't be hearing about it?
The format of these technical briefings changed after number 23; I do wonder why..
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It literally answers your notion as to why the majority dying were vaccinated in the fact check. As with other numbers you post, context is required and freely given if one is not trying to feed their confirmation bias.

As for the format change, it was probably the gay Jewish lizard NWO pharmacists that made that happen.
 
glorygloryeze said:
Is that really true though?

The Netherlands, for example, is set to go into some form of lockdown, they have rising cases. But i'm sure a few weeks back on here someone posted a tweet about how much vaccination western Europe (including the Netherlands) had done compared to the East.
Also, i'm pretty sure the Netherlands opened up before we did, though i'm happy to be corrected on that.

Many weeks ago Western Europe was neing envied by commentators and that the UK was a 'basket case' etc in terms of how much vaccination had been given out etc.
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The east of europe is totally fudged and has been for the last couple of months. Ukraine is having 750 deaths a day. Romania, bulgaria, czechia etc... all death rates far worse than western europe. Russia is breaking records for deaths on a daily basis.

Netherlands opened up july, cases shot up so they imposed restrictions again.
 
AuroRaman said:
It literally answers your notion as to why the majority dying were vaccinated in the fact check.
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It answered it in a very odd way: if all children across a certain age group are offered the MMR vaccine over a certain time period, if there are some children in that same age cohort that die of measles (or mumps or rubella) who die, when looking at the vaccination status of those who have died you WOULD NOT expect the majority of those who died to be vaccinated...the point of taking the vaccine is that the reverse would (should) happen.

AuroRaman said:
As with other numbers you post, context is required and freely given if one is not trying to feed their confirmation bias.
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Context is indeed everything and confirmation bias works both ways (as the BMJ's Peter Doshi has nicely highlighted recently..)

AuroRaman said:
As for the format change, it was probably the gay Jewish lizard NWO pharmacists that made that happen.
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Lol
 
glorygloryeze said:
Some old articles re Holland restrictions:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-57811538

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/12/eu-nations-reimpose-covid-measures-as-cases-surge


@Lilbaz is this what you mean? As in the imposed some restrictions again too soon after opening up the same summer?
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Yes. Reimposing restrictions just suppresses the virus. So when you open up again it will flare back up. In summer the healthcare system is less stressed. People are out doors more, better airflow as doors and windows are open, vit d boosting immune responses. We opened the day we did because it was 2 weeks after the 55s had been vaxxed (takes 2 weeks to get full benefit) schools were on holiday. So we let the virus run through. Merkel criticised it as a dangerous experimet. But it seems to have worked.

The dutch pm i think got too much stick in the pressand panicked.
 
Lilbaz said:
Yes. Reimposing restrictions just suppresses the virus. So when you open up again it will flare back up. In summer the healthcare system is less stressed. People are out doors more, better airflow as doors and windows are open, vit d boosting immune responses. We opened the day we did because it was 2 weeks after the 55s had been vaxxed (takes 2 weeks to get full benefit) schools were on holiday. So we let the virus run through. Merkel criticised it as a dangerous experimet. But it seems to have worked.
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Fair enough.. time will tell (hope you're right)..
 
glorygloryeze said:
Where is this notion that the unvaccinated are the ones overrunning hospitals?

When looking at these rolling England weekly reports (which cover 4 week rolling periods each time) it seems that most cases of COVID being admitted to hospital are fully vaccinated and most of those who die from covid are fully vaccinated: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-surveillance-reports

Most recent report for week 45, covering weeks 41 to 44:

Total Cases admitted to hospital: 10,179. Of these:
- number who were unvaccinated: 3,313
- number who were fully vaccinated: 7,322

Total deaths (within 28 days of positive sample): 3,430. Of these:
- number who were unvaccinated: 587
- number who were fully vaccinated: 2,732

Total deaths (within 60 days of positive sample): 4,135. Of these:
- number who were unvaccinated: 703
- number who were fully vaccinated: 3,284

These are usually from tables 4 and 5 in those weekly reports.

Happy to see any counter data....
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Btw, happy for anyone to fact-check these figures (not you @Lilbaz take a break lol!)
 
See the netherlands are saying it's a 3 week lockdown. Does he think covid will disappear in 3 weeks? Yes you might get numbers down in that time but they'll go right back up once you open up again. We saw that last winter. The lockdown will be till march now.
 
Lilbaz said:
See the netherlands are saying it's a 3 week lockdown. Does he think covid will disappear in 3 weeks? Yes you might get numbers down in that time but they'll go right back up once you open up again. We saw that last winter. The lockdown will be till march now.
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Literally zero point to lockdowns anymore, as we know they have done far worse to the world than good
 
Daily cases 38,351 today. Lower than yesterday but a week on week rise. Amount of people in hospital continues to fall 8652. Deaths saw a slight rise to 157.
 
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johnola said:
got this far and note something amiss…

“Total Cases admitted to hospital: 10,179. Of these:
- number who were unvaccinated: 3,313
- number who were fully vaccinated: 7,322”
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Lol. Someone can't add.

Also from that seems if you only have one shot you are 100% protected.
 
Lilbaz said:
We do a million tests a day. About 500,000 of them are the daily tests. About 6 times as much percapita as the netherlands, france or germany.
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I meant we should test ourselves more regularly on a personal level. Actually I suppose I mean I should test myself more regularly lol.
 
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