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Coronavirus

DTA said:
Its an insane amount spent. People can quite fathom how much a billion actually is.

Would be interesting to find the the unit cost per mask.
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I believe there is a warehouse in Felixstowe with tonnes of PPE, so much of it that ships couldn't unload more as there was nowhere to put it.

As we saw, the government didn't prepare and reacted last minute in a panic buying up anything they could. Shambles. 12.5b is indeed an insane amount of money, that you I and everyone else is paying for. Yet @scaramanga makes quips about nurses tweeting as a tax payer expense while defending the government's performance.
 
SpurMeUp said:
I believe there is a warehouse in Felixstowe with tonnes of PPE, so much of it that ships couldn't unload more as there was nowhere to put it.

As we saw, the government didn't prepare and reacted last minute in a panic buying up anything they could. Shambles. 12.5b is indeed an insane amount of money, that you I and everyone else is paying for. Yet @scaramanga makes quips about nurses tweeting as a tax payer expense while defending the government's performance.
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There was actually a number of contracts in place for emergency situations as part of disaster/pandemic style planning that were activated for medical supplies but as things developed and it turned into a huge global issue those contracts were basically ignored and we were fighting for supplies alongside everyone else.

I'll be interested to see the investigation into all this and the dealings and backhanders that went on.

Overall though on balance I'd rather we had plenty of supplies at a higher price than not enough like in the first wave where hundreds of healthworkers sadly died in part due to lack of PPE.
 
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It's Mr Benn day again.

As if by magic, a scientist appeared...!
 
Legohamster said:
Pretty much in the same place.

As with England and Scotland, hospitals and Care homes are the main infection areas.
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The figures don't back that up. They fell significantly during the firebreak and then shot up quickly once it was relaxed. Suggests that the spread is fuelled by those who are out and about mixing (unsurprising for a virus like this one), not by people who are by and large still shielding.
 
Mikey10 said:
The figures don't back that up. They fell significantly during the firebreak and then shot up quickly once it was relaxed. Suggests that the spread is fuelled by those who are out and about mixing (unsurprising for a virus like this one), not by people who are by and large still shielding.
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After six months of beating the anti lockdown drum I’d suggest you’re wasting your time trying to debate this with the lego hamster. His or her agenda is clear and it’s not public health that’s important.
 
Mikey10 said:
The figures don't back that up. They fell significantly during the firebreak and then shot up quickly once it was relaxed. Suggests that the spread is fuelled by those who are out and about mixing (unsurprising for a virus like this one), not by people who are by and large still shielding.
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If the fire break was affective they wouldn’t see a fall till at least 2 weeks after - according to drakeford and sage.

So if numbers fell during the likelihood is they would have fallen anyway


While health minister Vaughan Gething said yesterday: "We've been clear that we're acting at this point, we're acting to have a definitive fire-break.

"We'll see the benefit of that come after the fire break ends”

so if that is the case the fire break caused more cases!
 
Sky just annouced that Boris' chief whip has messaged all MPs for a 6pm Q&A, ahead of the 7pm vote. That's unusual as usually Whip will obviously ask all of their own MPs to attend, but to open invite to all MPs means Boris must be worried about losing the vote.
 
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