nayenezgani
Jimmy Neighbour
He's suggesting one circuit breaker will stop or reduce ongoing peaks into next year.
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He's suggesting one circuit breaker will stop or reduce ongoing peaks into next year.
Grays_1890
Chris Jones
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tommysvr
Vedran Corluka
Here in Melbourne, we entered our second wave lockdown on July 7. We were told “6 weeks should be enough to absolutely get us through.” We’re still in the lockdown now. So I think that is an extremely optimistic chart considering where the UK is at.
Certainly not worth fudging an economy for. Interesting read.
Grays_1890
Chris Jones
Or increase child poverty
Legohamster
Ian Walker
Had a convo with the store manager today at Asda and he claims that if we go into full lockdown again they will be asking for money from the gov to stay open - he claims all the main super markets are in on it - danger money I guess
seems realistic and Unrealistic
seems realistic and Unrealistic
elyid
Milija Aleksic
I noticed Wales are doing some passive-aggressive brick by refusing to use that term, but calling the Welsh one a "Fire Breaker" instead
I like the idea that keeps going back-and-forth with each region of the UK using more and more ridiculous terms.
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elyid
Milija Aleksic
The official statistics declare "deaths within 28 days of a positive test" so the second part is certainly accurate.
For hospital admissions: well there's only been 383 in the whole of London last week, so whichever way you dice it that's basically zero. (Theoretically we could literally survey them all what they are in for, but then that data might be accurate)
Grays_1890
Chris Jones
TBH I kind of get it, they are being expected to remain open as essential work but to what risk to their staff when other establishments are deemed to dangerous to remain open.
And before people say, I also believe the same for other essential workforce
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
Boris throwing out loads more made up stats in his latest briefing
Grays_1890
Chris Jones
Surely then we are trending on a different trajectory than reported if non Covid deaths are being recorded as covid
elyid
Milija Aleksic
Yes. If counting deaths where the person "definitely died from covid" then the angle of ascent would be lower.
There is a government document that says there have been only 9,000 deaths where Covid was the only factor. So in that case the numbers have been lower all along.. will try to find the URL.
Giving the benefit of the doubt I personally hope it's a case of scaremongering to make sure it's eradicated, but maybe I'm naive.
Grays_1890
Chris Jones
So major increase in spread is Uni students funnily enough based on hotspots and despite claims of London hospitals close to breaking point its far from the case.
Front line Drs who face actual patients are starting to come out more and more about concerns to patient welfare due to potential restrictions which is a better counter to scientist advice rather than pitting them against economists advise as people just see life v money when its actually life v life
Front line Drs who face actual patients are starting to come out more and more about concerns to patient welfare due to potential restrictions which is a better counter to scientist advice rather than pitting them against economists advise as people just see life v money when its actually life v life
Grays_1890
Chris Jones
There are a fair few Drs that are saying this is the Government doing that and doubling down on fact track and trace has cost 1bn and has to be seen to work. This gives them daylight
Legohamster
Ian Walker
the biggest shock of this is they managed to find a doctor doing face to face
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
I have to have 3 monthly B12 injections, I last had one in January, every time I ring about it they are like nope you can't come in buy tablets instead
handy that
Grays_1890
Chris Jones
Alas they understand the breadth of patients and their welfare more than a scientist who's an expert in disease
LutonSpurs
Eric Dear
I don't disagree. The circuit breaker won't be 2 weeks. It will be through Xmas and will devastate many families. I don't have an answer for the best way out.
Grays_1890
Chris Jones
The fact the government are locking down again after furlough ending Oct meant that was recovery plan A which has failed obviously. So for us to sandwich the year with lockdown i think we can all at least agree this is a fudge up extrodinaire
Legohamster
Ian Walker
the circuit breaker has gone from a quick 14 day thing
today I’ve heard interviews with MPs on all sides, not one has said 14 days and it’s varied from 3 weeks to every school holiday
Tim Farron was interviewed earlier and he started with 14 days - by the end of it he was at 6 weeks min.
They have no idea how to get out of a lockdown and all we are doing now is killing more people and making people jobless.
anyone that suggests a circuit breaker should just be ignored.