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Circus ManUnitus - Nobody's At The Wheel

I was looking at their fixtures the other day and said to a Utd fan at work that October would be a reality check for them -- he agreed with me. Just got done by the goons, their remaining league fixtures for October are Everton away, Emirates Marketing Project at home, Palace away. Could easily lose the lot imo.
 
Are you serious mate? the guy has made RA look cheap, has fixed neither the front line or back line and into second season his fallback is Young & Fellaini?

Levy needs to thank the football gods we dodged that bullet.

Agreed! 100%.
Was delighted we didn't get him because the bloke would've demanded an outrageous budget from us, which Levy would've stiffed him on, thus another 'sacking/departure' and more compo would've ensued...
 
I was looking at their fixtures the other day and said to a Utd fan at work that October would be a reality check for them -- he agreed with me. Just got done by the goons, their remaining league fixtures for October are Everton away, Emirates Marketing Project at home, Palace away. Could easily lose the lot imo.
Makes it even more annoying that we scored for them at OT, as their attack was largely toothless like yesterday and had we got a point from that opening game we'd now be above ManUre in the league.
 
Agreed! 100%.
Was delighted we didn't get him because the bloke would've demanded an outrageous budget from us, which Levy would've stiffed him on, thus another 'sacking/departure' and more compo would've ensued...

I dont think he would have demanded any outrageous budget....he has worked at clubs where they dont spend stupid amounts and still had success, he has worked at massive clubs where budgets are bigger and he has spent the money if it was available

Right now he is at Man Utd and they are full of cash ready to be burned, so why wouldnt he spend spend spend. He is not a stupid bloke, if Levy told him in negotiations that Spurs have a sell to buy policy and the club want to primarily concentrate on promoting the young players then thats the model he would have followed if he felt the Spurs job was right for him

I think had Utd looked elsewhere and not at LVG then he would have been the Spurs manager....he was never going to turn Utd down, i mean who would do that?
 
Are you serious mate? the guy has made RA look cheap, has fixed neither the front line or back line and into second season his fallback is Young & Fellaini?

Levy needs to thank the football gods we dodged that bullet.

Would agree with this, bullet dodged without a doubt.
 
I dont think he would have demanded any outrageous budget....he has worked at clubs where they dont spend stupid amounts and still had success, he has worked at massive clubs where budgets are bigger and he has spent the money if it was available

Right now he is at Man Utd and they are full of cash ready to be burned, so why wouldnt he spend spend spend. He is not a stupid bloke, if Levy told him in negotiations that Spurs have a sell to buy policy and the club want to primarily concentrate on promoting the young players then thats the model he would have followed if he felt the Spurs job was right for him

I think had Utd looked elsewhere and not at LVG then he would have been the Spurs manager....he was never going to turn Utd down, i mean who would do that?

It's not the spend with LVG, it's the massive spend and the glaring holes/unbalanced side left behind. It smacks of a child in candy store who spends his lunch money on sweets and is hungry one hour later.
 
Not sure that it's specifically LVG spending the money. There not spending it on WC players at the top of their game, or even close to it, because they can't attract those players now.
They're spending it to keep Man U the brand relevant.
Take martial, by all accounts could have got for a lot less. So Man U sign French teenager for £25m, yawn. Benteke cost more. Few column inches in that. So with Emirates Marketing Project spending almost £50m on sterling and £56m on de bruin Man U have to seen to by trying to keep up. The international fans new to game that everyone is trying to catch are fickle, they will change to whoever looks good and is in the news. Chelsea and Emirates Marketing Project have left Man U behind (and they struggle to attract the real cream at the moment) they can't be seen to be falling even further behind.
 
@glasgowspur not sure i agree with that. they paid big money for di maria (and falcao to an extent too). there just arent worldclass players really available atm. they were somewhat strongly linked with the likes of neymar and pogba this summer. if a player of that reputation (which i believe is a slight notch above debruyne/sterling) was genuinely available, i really think man utd wouldve been contenders for his signature.

even someone with like ozil, had man utd had a manager at the time who had heard of ozil, who knows? maybe they wouldve signed him. i really dont think they have a lack of money. if you look at the kind of players that arsenal, chelsea and city have been buying, it shows that players with worldclass reputations just werent available for sale this window
 
I dont think he would have demanded any outrageous budget....he has worked at clubs where they dont spend stupid amounts and still had success, he has worked at massive clubs where budgets are bigger and he has spent the money if it was available

Right now he is at Man Utd and they are full of cash ready to be burned, so why wouldnt he spend spend spend. He is not a stupid bloke, if Levy told him in negotiations that Spurs have a sell to buy policy and the club want to primarily concentrate on promoting the young players then thats the model he would have followed if he felt the Spurs job was right for him

I think had Utd looked elsewhere and not at LVG then he would have been the Spurs manager....he was never going to turn Utd down, i mean who would do that?


We will never know. Thankfully. I believe he would've been a massive bust at our club and that he and Levy would've fallen out big-time.
 
@glasgowspur not sure i agree with that. they paid big money for di maria (and falcao to an extent too). there just arent worldclass players really available atm. they were somewhat strongly linked with the likes of neymar and pogba this summer. if a player of that reputation (which i believe is a slight notch above debruyne/sterling) was genuinely available, i really think man utd wouldve been contenders for his signature.

even someone with like ozil, had man utd had a manager at the time who had heard of ozil, who knows? maybe they wouldve signed him. i really dont think they have a lack of money. if you look at the kind of players that Ar5ena1, Chel53a and city have been buying, it shows that players with worldclass reputations just werent available for sale this window
They don't lack money, but they are beginning to lack relevance. they can't attract the really top players that keeps them in the public eye. So with players like martial and di Maria they are over paying to keep them in the limelight.
Man U need the huge sponsorship from the likes of Nike and Chevrolet and they won't get that scraping for third or fourth. But that's where they are just now, and to make it worse if a really top player becomes available and wants to move to England Chelsea and Emirates Marketing Project are in a position to offer just as much money or more. Those clubs have a recent history of winning and are on the up. Man U have as much chance of becoming the the next Liverpool as becoming the next CL winners!
 
Isn't United signing (or attempting to sign) big name foreign players something new for them? I know that there are exceptions like Veron but on the whole, I think that Ferguson preferred to poach the best players off of his PL rivals or buy young players from abroad and develop them.
 
Yes the majority of Fergusons signings were OL proven.
Problems there now is the quality isn't there if they want to further in the CL, and Man U aren't the draw they once were.
The PL is out of vogue at the moment and its reputation outside the UK is slipping.
Almost all the big players are elsewhere, same with the managers, CL spot under threat, generally the PL is struggling PR wise.
 
It's not the spend with LVG, it's the massive spend and the glaring holes/unbalanced side left behind. It smacks of a child in candy store who spends his lunch money on sweets and is hungry one hour later.

where are the holes? The side looks perfectly balanced now, he signed an excellent right back, Shaw was showing a return to form at left back before his horrific injury, Schneiderlin and Sweinsteiger strengthened their for long shocking midfield, Depay was brought in to provide quality in the wide forward position and Martial is doing the business up front. They managed to keep DeGea.

Centre half is the one position left that needs strengthening.

Last summer they were very poor in the transfer market thats for sure, but this summer i think they have addressed their weak areas with some good buys
 
Yes the majority of Fergusons signings were OL proven.
Problems there now is the quality isn't there if they want to further in the CL, and Man U aren't the draw they once were.
The PL is out of vogue at the moment and its reputation outside the UK is slipping.
Almost all the big players are elsewhere, same with the managers, CL spot under threat, generally the PL is struggling PR wise.

I think that Ferguson's fondness for signing established PL was two fold, they were lower risk and it destabilised his rivals.

I think that United still have the financial muscle to follow that policy. I think that what has changed is that LVG prefers trophy signings and has put signing names above prioritising improving the weakest areas of the team.
 
I think that Ferguson's fondness for signing established PL was two fold, they were lower risk and it destabilised his rivals.

I think that United still have the financial muscle to follow that policy. I think that what has changed is that LVG prefers trophy signings and has put signing names above prioritising improving the weakest areas of the team.

the only trophy signing they made this summer was Schweinsteiger..........all the others made sense, were young and talented, not big established names, but of course Utd still had to overpay because thats what they have to cope with due to the massive profit generating beast that Man Utd is.

In fact, imo only Schweinsteiger and Di Maria would count as trophy signings under LVG, big household names. Falcao was another but cleverly they only took him on loan.
 
agreed milo, it's reasons for signing them.
As a brand the squad is a rubbish and they can't go away quietly for a few seasons and rebuild it. They need to keep at the front of the publics mind.
Now they are having to pay over the odds and then hype the player up.
 
They're not trophy signings, but they are trophy signing prices.
Thomas muller, the guy they've chased all summer and couldn't get would be a trophy signing. They can afford him but he won't come. At the moment the really top players don't want to come here. In fact three of the top four players in the world have left here to go to Spain.
 
They're not trophy signings, but they are trophy signing prices.
Thomas muller, the guy they've chased all summer and couldn't get would be a trophy signing. They can afford him but he won't come. At the moment the really top players don't want to come here. In fact three of the top four players in the world have left here to go to Spain.
Who? Ronaldo, Bale and..... Soldado?
 
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