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Cann we make the top 4 or 5?

The league is weird this year. 16 games played, and only 4 teams have a goal difference better than 5!

Liverpool and cheats +18, Spurs +17 and Arse +14
Next on the list is City with +5!
I know every team could say this (and we say it every year!) But... imagine if we had got our act together and picked up more points in some of those games.. feels like another season where we haven't capitalised on so many teams having dodgy spells.

Still, plenty of games left, players to come back, Jan window, could all change
 
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I know every team could say this (and we say it every year!) But... imagine if we had got our act together and picked up more points in some of those games.. feels like another season where we haven't capitalised on so many teams have dodgy spells.

Still, plenty of games left, players to come back, Jan window, could all change

Yep turn these 1 goal deficit losses into draws and eventually the draws into narrow wins.
 
Until we look more consistently assured with our defending and have our midfield stop attacks a bit better (i think in general the level of tackling i the team is actually quite woeful) then i simply can't see it
 
Very true!

How can Spurs possibly claw back a 5 point deficit on the mighty Notts Forest over 22 games? We literally have zero chance :(
By being completely incosistent and shyte far to much of the time.

If that was the case, then why are we not ahead of them after 16 games? I mean, they are the mighty Forest and we should be ahead of them right? Right?
 
It’s why we almost have the same goals scored and against as Chelsea
But the margins have been worse for us

This is the thing, we win big, lose small

- Spurs, 16 games, 36GF, 19GA, +17GD, 23 points, 10th
- Chelsea, 16 games, 37GF, 19GA, +18GD, 34 points, 2nd

It's literally a 1 goal difference across 16 games, but an 8 place, 11 point gap

This to me is about game management, picking the moments to be 100% vs. just don't let the opponent get a sniff for 15 minutes. Yes, we have had the odd utter brick game (Palace to me was a stinker), but it's more about brick moments, brick 10 minutes, and that's why we really don't look like we can push on.
 
Get a run together, go for the title second-half of the season as Liverpool stumble, Chelsea start infighting, and we get players back/make a couple of key signings...(probably not but I do think a trophy is on the cards)...

It should be the only thing at this point

- Yes, a good late run in league could get us 5th/6th, anything higher is too dependent on others fudging up (your point)
- No one will care if we end up 8th and win a cup, win the Europa league and it's even bigger.
 
This is the thing, we win big, lose small

- Spurs, 16 games, 36GF, 19GA, +17GD, 23 points, 10th
- Chelsea, 16 games, 37GF, 19GA, +18GD, 34 points, 2nd

It's literally a 1 goal difference across 16 games, but an 8 place, 11 point gap

This to me is about game management, picking the moments to be 100% vs. just don't let the opponent get a sniff for 15 minutes. Yes, we have had the odd utter brick game (Palace to me was a stinker), but it's more about brick moments, brick 10 minutes, and that's why we really don't look like we can push on.

It feels very Bielsa-like as you mentioned a few days ago. Until we ingrain a way to manage resources during a game, we will always blow hot and cold and eventually burn out without any reward
 
This is the thing, we win big, lose small

- Spurs, 16 games, 36GF, 19GA, +17GD, 23 points, 10th
- Chelsea, 16 games, 37GF, 19GA, +18GD, 34 points, 2nd

It's literally a 1 goal difference across 16 games, but an 8 place, 11 point gap

This to me is about game management, picking the moments to be 100% vs. just don't let the opponent get a sniff for 15 minutes. Yes, we have had the odd utter brick game (Palace to me was a stinker), but it's more about brick moments, brick 10 minutes, and that's why we really don't look like we can push on.
Luck too
Chelsea apparently had a weakened team yesterday but it looked like the same line up that played up less one man
If you can keep players fit and not make significant material changes you will have better stability at key points in a game
Letting Lestah into the game was bad management of the game
The way we conceded vs Saudi Sportswashing Machine was bad management of the game
Arsenal we managed well but it was a sucker punch
There wee games with such fine margins
And some shockers too like palace and Ipswich
 
Luck too
Chelsea apparently had a weakened team yesterday but it looked like the same line up that played up less one man
If you can keep players fit and not make significant material changes you will have better stability at key points in a game
Letting Lestah into the game was bad management of the game
The way we conceded vs Saudi Sportswashing Machine was bad management of the game
Arsenal we managed well but it was a sucker punch
There wee games with such fine margins
And some shockers too like palace and Ipswich

But it's always fine margins, and you have to manage those fine margins (Which is the current big criticism)

Chelsea is odd because they are using the huge squad to their advantage right now, they basically are doing a league squad and a cup squad, huge advantage in managing injuries and fatigue. Are players going to accept that in the long run? who knows, maybe if you pay them stupid wages and long contracts?
 
The thing is, would any of you forfeit top 4 or 5 for the Carabao or FA Cup?

I think I would as we have been in the Champions league numerous times now and have got to the furthest we can possibly get to, yet we are still the joke of the footballing world for being "sexy" and not winning a trophy.

That being said, I do think the FA Cup would be the one I'd want if we only had one as I still think we will get "well youve only won a Mickey mouse cup" if we win the Carabao cup.
 
But it's always fine margins, and you have to manage those fine margins (Which is the current big criticism)

Chelsea is odd because they are using the huge squad to their advantage right now, they basically are doing a league squad and a cup squad, huge advantage in managing injuries and fatigue. Are players going to accept that in the long run? who knows, maybe if you pay them stupid wages and long contracts?
Also think with PSR they need to sell to buy and they do need a better keeper and Cbs IMO
 
The thing is, would any of you forfeit top 4 or 5 for the Carabao or FA Cup?

I think I would as we have been in the Champions league numerous times now and have got to the furthest we can possibly get to, yet we are still the joke of the footballing world for being "sexy" and not winning a trophy.

That being said, I do think the FA Cup would be the one I'd want if we only had one as I still think we will get "well youve only won a Mickey mouse cup" if we win the Carabao cup.
Both of them are now devalued but in order of cups from lowest to highest (and a league place)
It’s league cup, fa cup, CL through league, Europa cup (CL through winning)
That is how I’d rank it as a preference
 
The thing is, would any of you forfeit top 4 or 5 for the Carabao or FA Cup?

I think I would as we have been in the Champions league numerous times now and have got to the furthest we can possibly get to, yet we are still the joke of the footballing world for being "sexy" and not winning a trophy.

That being said, I do think the FA Cup would be the one I'd want if we only had one as I still think we will get "well youve only won a Mickey mouse cup" if we win the Carabao cup.

Yes, one year out of top 5 makes very little difference to this version of Spurs (when we had a 33K seater stadium and massive revenue gap to others, different story)

A cup would take a lot of pressure off manager, club, allow for a little more patience on the rebuild.
 
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