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Black Lives Matter

Glenda's Legs said:
Doesn't that make it worse (if indeed it can be any worse) - if he was already having expressing that he was having difficulty breathing, then pressing down on his neck for a prolonged period might not have been the best thing to do?
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How often do you think police officers hear "I can't breathe" or "I'm dying" or "These cuffs are too tight?"

I'm guessing at least once or twice a week.
 
Rorschach said:
LOL. Or maybe he is just right and the county coroner won't go against the police. His bio looks fairly impressive to me.
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Coroner is employed by the same people who sacked the police and brought charges against them - conspiracy falls at the first hurdle.

He's a TV celebrity coroner who gives the answer he's paid to give.
 
Kandi1977 said:
I'm no doctor, but I know that prolonged time with too little oxygen to the brain can cause cardiac arrest and other fatal issues. I'd say with 99,99% certainty that the cops actions where the main cause of his death. If that fuxking nutter hadn't sat on his neck for 8 minutes, he'd be alive today. Of that I'm certain.
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Why did he need to sit on his neck when he was in handcuffs that makes no sense to me.
 
scaramanga said:
Coroner is employed by the same people who sacked the police and bought charges against them - conspiracy falls at the first hurdle.

He's a TV celebrity coroner who gives the answer he's paid to give.
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It doesn't mean he is wrong in this case or previous ones. You have no idea, just as I do not, who is right or worng in this case. And the coroner I presume is still working with the police department where these guys worked. I can see plenty of reasons for not wanting to upset the applecart there.
 
Rorschach said:
It doesn't mean he is wrong in this case or previous ones. You have no idea, just as I do not, who is right or worng in this case. And the coroner I presume is still working with the police department where these guys worked. I can see plenty of reasons for not wanting to upset the applecart there.
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The official report is out as I posted above.

They're pushing for homicide (and it seems like that's right) bit his analysis was wrong.

Oh, and he was definitely wrong in the OJ Simpson case.
 
scaramanga said:
How often do you think police officers hear "I can't breathe" or "I'm dying" or "These cuffs are too tight?"

I'm guessing at least once or twice a week.
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There's a fair gap between "these cuffs are too tight" and "I can't breathe/I'm dying". If their methods give rise to the latter complaint at least twice a week then their methods need to be questionned. I don't believe it's an automatic response to being restrained.
 
Glenda's Legs said:
There's a fair gap between "these cuffs are too tight" and "I can't breathe/I'm dying". If their methods give rise to the latter complaint at least twice a week then their methods need to be questionned. I don't believe it's an automatic response to being restrained.
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And even if it is crying wolf, it should still be taken seriously.
The cuffs are the restraint, not the neck.
 
Danishfurniturelover said:
I agree with your general sentiments in this thread. But to be fair i have often found how people to dress to be an indicator of their personality.

It is why i disliked Tripper so much, that guy was a chav you could just tell.
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With Trippier his hair-don't gave it away, though your point is well-taken.

Yes, I agree that what you wear can suggest a lot about you, but Scara's playing it for gags. My point was that if you have a black youth and a white youth wearing a hoodie and gold jewelry, one will more often than not be feared and labeled as engaging in criminal/dangerous activity whilst the other will simply ride the pine of looking chavvy.
 
thfcsteff said:
With Trippier his hair-don't gave it away, though your point is well-taken.

Yes, I agree that what you wear can suggest a lot about you, but Scara's playing it for gags. My point was that if you have a black youth and a white youth wearing a hoodie and gold jewelry, one will more often than not be feared and labeled as engaging in criminal/dangerous activity whilst the other will simply ride the pine of looking chavvy.
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I agree. I dont feel right slagging off America as i have only been once, was going to go back this October as a treat for a tough year but we are delaying it.

I dont know the country or the people but from the outside looking in it seems to have real issues with race and i dont get it.

The is no defending what happened to that poor msn and im someone who likes tough justice.
 
scaramanga said:
He was already complaining that he couldn't breather whilst he was upright. Just as likely that his heart was giving in from the struggle when he refused to get out of the car and then resisted arrest.
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"Just as likely"...that is absolute rubbish! Allow me to grade this latest bit of homework. I give this an "F".
 
Danishfurniturelover said:
I agree. I dont feel right slagging off America as i have only been once, was going to go back this October as a treat for a tough year but we are delaying it.

I dont know the country or the people but from the outside looking in it seems to have real issues with race and i dont get it.

The is no defending what happened to that poor msn and im someone who likes tough justice.
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You are on the money with your assertion. The US has a massive issue with race and always has had.
I am sure you remember Toxteth, Southall, Brixton and Moss Side; I think we are around the same age so like me it would've been a part of your youth.This feels similar.
 
Glenda's Legs said:
There's a fair gap between "these cuffs are too tight" and "I can't breathe/I'm dying". If their methods give rise to the latter complaint at least twice a week then their methods need to be questionned. I don't believe it's an automatic response to being restrained.
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You don't think criminals will attempt anything to try and justify an escape?

Watch a couple of those bricky ITV programmes where police chase down criminals - they do it all the time.
 
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