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Ange in or out?
- Thread starter Yiddo
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It is a squad with no real 'top quality' players (Romero when he fancies it), and littered with players who could be really good but right now are young, talented and inconsistent (which of course is to be expected at a young age). In a couple of years if these young players continue on an upward trajectory they could be really good and this squad could really be brimming with real quality. But there are no guarantees, and likely some won't fulfill their potential. Do agree we are moving in the right direction....
kb 1984
Michael Brown
Thanks it's on in an hour I will give it a watch
Glenda's Legs
Ian Walker
I'm sure it was reported (Gold?) that after the Brighton game Levy, Ange and Son had a good meeting/catch-up, and everyone left happy as they headed for their holidays.
I think he stays and all this stuff about other managers is noise. But I am usually wrong so who knows.
With the new CEO now in situ, we should at least soon get some certainty one way or another.
I think he stays and all this stuff about other managers is noise. But I am usually wrong so who knows.
With the new CEO now in situ, we should at least soon get some certainty one way or another.
veryoldspur
Thimotée Atouba
Finishing 17th and losing 22 games isn't really that hard to beat I hope
elyid
Mauricio Taricco
I was saying this before our final. Barring a big European team not making CL, you’d expect PL teams will be favourites every year in the current format.
Could see a Palace or Villa winning the Super Cup in the next five years
Silly McSilly Face
Ronnie Rosenthal
Partly just because of a dominant betting market towards English teams in this country. I certainly think the PL teams have a good shout every year, but Bilbao were undoubtedly a better team than United and Lazio were undoubtedly a better team than Bodo and neither had the fortune favour them over the two legs. Both would have likely provided a sterner test for us in both semi final and final. In particular, Bilbao were probably the best team in the competition for me, but combination of loss of heads (red card), United playing their performance of the season and missing an absolute hat full of chances knocked them out.
Mikey10
Chris Perry
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
It's also the case that had it been Lazio in the semi-final, a lot of the jibes about this being an easy competition to win would have disappeared. The route to the cup would have been (in the knockout rounds) Alkmaar-Frankfurt-Lazio-United - historically, that's pretty on-par with the typical difficulty of the EL/UEFA Cup.
It's just Bodo beating Lazio that sparked a lot of the jibes. It's also not the case that PL teams will find this new format easy - we played 15 games to win it. If you're competing in both the PL and the EL, 15 games is a gigantic challenge fitness-wise - both us and United only got through it because we threw the league to focus on Europe, and that's not something every team can do.
That's ignoring that you could also play the first knockout round, which adds even more games - 17 in total, a gigantic figure if you're trying to balance the EL with the relentless physicality of the PL.
Gazza
Pedro Mendes
Terminator 2 was better than every other terminator film
Grays_1890
Gary Stevens
Came back to say...........Gone.
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glorygloryeze
Les Medley
Source???
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
F5 F5 F5
Bishop
Pedro Mendes
If he has genuinely learnt from this season and is willing and able to add subtle adjustments to his general philosophy along with being far more proactive in his tactical responses I can see the sense in him getting another season.
If however he thinks this season has proven the extent of what his system entails and that he just needs a little more luck with injuries and for the players to embrace it even further then he should absolutely be fired.
I'd be surprised if he implements the obvious adjustments simply because they've been obvious for a long time and he never moved in that direction. Instead he stuck his head in the ground and just kept trying the same thing.
Bedfordspurs
Graham Roberts
Great tune
Roland Beurre
Ilie Dumitrescu
Ange Postecoglou: "I've had to answer the questions because no one else at the club is kind of in the position to do so, I guess. But I can't answer that question about me and my future, and part of me is kind of thinking, well, why have I been asked that question? But it is what it is.
"And I've got no doubt, though, that this could be a real sort of defining moment for this club because wherever I've been, I've kind of made an impact where I've brought success to a club that hasn't had for a while, and you just have to look at those clubs' trajectory even after I've left, they're still competing for things."
He might have shot himself in the foot with that comment, but I guess he is just talking up his CV.
It's like the inverse of the Spinal Tap line: the support band were so bad, they were still booing them halfway through our set.
"And I've got no doubt, though, that this could be a real sort of defining moment for this club because wherever I've been, I've kind of made an impact where I've brought success to a club that hasn't had for a while, and you just have to look at those clubs' trajectory even after I've left, they're still competing for things."
He might have shot himself in the foot with that comment, but I guess he is just talking up his CV.
It's like the inverse of the Spinal Tap line: the support band were so bad, they were still booing them halfway through our set.
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
If he stays, I think it has to be contingent on a turnover of coaching staff.
He needs assistants who can run his training sessions and also drill tactics (and a better pressing strategy) into the players.
With Mason (probably) leaving, it opens up some space for a few new faces. A dedicated set-piece coach wouldn't hurt either.
Bring in staff to run the day-to-day a bit more, and let him do the big picture stuff which he's a little better at - handling the media, motivating the players, man management, overall philosophy.
Muttley
Mido
As we were talking about the league, let's continue with those stats.
2017/18, Kane got 30 goals
2022/23, Kane got 30 goals
The in-between years were 17, 18, 23 and 17
I'm sorry but there would be no guarantee of 25-30 goals a season especially in a tough PL when you're in your thirties. The PL is not the Bundesliga.
For me, it was in the little moments with Kane. The pulling out of headers. The little look down at the floor knowing that a team mate needed him to show for the ball. The dropping deep to spray a pass and then just standing there fixed to the spot. I genuinely don't see that from any of our players nowadays. The question mark in my mind was whether Ange would have been able to snap Kane out of some these little bad habits that were becoming prevalent in his game. To be fair, the BM fans made similar observations when he first moved there. I remember a little series of games in 22/23 where Kane indirectly cost us 3 goals in 4 games as he didn't do what number 9s do in those situations. Strikers don't get goals chalked off for when they cost you goals though. Kane's cumulation in that department over a season was actually quite high.
I guess we'll never know whether Ange or Harry would have adapted their approach if they worked together. I'm pretty certain something would have had to give as we've all seen what Ange needs from his number 9s. Interestingly, that hasn't deviated so much as Ange has adapted some of the other parts of his system.
I'd love a 24/25 year old Kane in this setup to be fair. Not the one that left. Not the thirty-something Harry was about to become either.
Legohamster
Tom Huddlestone
I can't believe this is still dragging on (either way)