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Ange in or out?

Ange in or out?

  • In

    Votes: 77 45.3%

  • Out

    Votes: 93 54.7%
  • Total voters
    170
RigorMortis said:
No one ever said it was
However in the context of the conversation that calling someone a fat clam is the same as a black clam the scenarios are very different.

As far as I’m aware there have been no mass calls for fat people to fudge off back to where they came from or all the proper Londoners have had to move to Essex and the Home Counties because of the influx of fat people.
These are accusations which uk ethnic minorities have heard many a time.
So your protestations seem disingenuous as does your definition of racism.
But this isn’t going anywhere

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It's the dictionary definition, not mine. I take each individual as I find them, but like most people I will generalise about about certain races. The woke don't like generalisation, but that's what humans do, I can't see it changing any time soon.

On the subject of Ange, I simply can't wait for him to leave our club, he may have set us back years
 
LutonSpurs said:
People who have never suffered due to the colour of their skin telling people who have how to feel does not belong in this thread.
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Tosh, so what you are implying is that people can't have an opinion on something they haven't experienced.

I am a vegetarian, and have been for over 60 years. Barely a day goes by when people don't take the micky out of me, even though I doubt 1% of them would actually slaughter the animal. The reality is I know I am in the minority, so I just laugh and get on with it. I just wish everybody could do the same about everything, then we would all get on so much better
 
veryoldspur said:
Tosh, so what you are implying is that people can't have an opinion on something they haven't experienced.

I am a vegetarian, and have been for over 60 years. Barely a day goes by when people don't take the micky out of me, even though I doubt 1% of them would actually slaughter the animal. The reality is I know I am in the minority, so I just laugh and get on with it. I just wish everybody could do the same about everything, then we would all get on so much better
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Having the “mickey” taken out of you for a lifestyle choice is not the same as facing systemic or individual abuse due to one’s skin colour (or sexual orientation or gender).
 
LutonSpurs said:
People who have never suffered due to the colour of their skin telling people who have how to feel does not belong in this thread.
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It doesn’t belong anywhere tbh. But get your point.

Ange - maybe in maybe out - still burying my head in the sand after 10 weeks away until I see us play when I get back. Hard to see my vote remaining “in” but I want to see out the season with him and see how we look with players back. And of course how we do in the EL. But based on what I’ve read it’s hard to envisage another season of Ange - yet I would not be totally surprised if he gets the backing for next season.
 
Glenda's Legs said:
It doesn’t belong anywhere tbh. But get your point.

Ange - maybe in maybe out - still burying my head in the sand after 10 weeks away until I see us play when I get back. Hard to see my vote remaining “in” but I want to see out the season with him and see how we look with players back. And of course how we do in the EL. But based on what I’ve read it’s hard to envisage another season of Ange - yet I would not be totally surprised if he gets the backing for next season.
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I’m sure Ange is gone this summer
I think that’s exactly why they are sticking with him now
Doing things the right way is rarely the Tottenham way and for once we seem to be doing things “better”
 
Glenda's Legs said:
It doesn’t belong anywhere tbh. But get your point.

Ange - maybe in maybe out - still burying my head in the sand after 10 weeks away until I see us play when I get back. Hard to see my vote remaining “in” but I want to see out the season with him and see how we look with players back. And of course how we do in the EL. But based on what I’ve read it’s hard to envisage another season of Ange - yet I would not be totally surprised if he gets the backing for next season.
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Start planning another 10 week trip as a contingency plan, would be my advice :)
 
veryoldspur said:
Tosh, so what you are implying is that people can't have an opinion on something they haven't experienced.

I am a vegetarian, and have been for over 60 years. Barely a day goes by when people don't take the micky out of me, even though I doubt 1% of them would actually slaughter the animal. The reality is I know I am in the minority, so I just laugh and get on with it. I just wish everybody could do the same about everything, then we would all get on so much better
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No, you can have an opinion but policing other peoples lived experiences is the bit that makes you look like a tit.
 
Bedfordspurs said:
I’m sure Ange is gone this summer
I think that’s exactly why they are sticking with him now
Doing things the right way is rarely the Tottenham way and for once we seem to be doing things “better”
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It sure seems like nobody's interested in discussing him any more. I believe it's the first time I see a thread about the current manager turn into a debate on a totally different topic (but, admittedly, I'm a long-time poster but not a regular one).
 
Glenda's Legs said:
Having the “mickey” taken out of you for a lifestyle choice is not the same as facing systemic or individual abuse due to one’s skin colour (or sexual orientation or gender).
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I have had numerous black friends of all ages, most have never experienced these prejudices. I can't help but think some people see racism where racism doesn't exist. This is probably the most tolerant country in the world, and once again, racism doesn't just happen in one direction
 
Glenda's Legs said:
It doesn’t belong anywhere tbh. But get your point.

Ange - maybe in maybe out - still burying my head in the sand after 10 weeks away until I see us play when I get back. Hard to see my vote remaining “in” but I want to see out the season with him and see how we look with players back. And of course how we do in the EL. But based on what I’ve read it’s hard to envisage another season of Ange - yet I would not be totally surprised if he gets the backing for next season.
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Believe me, the football is awful, regardless of whether we have injuries or not
 
veryoldspur said:
I have had numerous black friends of all ages, most have never experienced these prejudices. I can't help but think some people see racism where racism doesn't exist. This is probably the most tolerant country in the world, and once again, racism doesn't just happen in one direction
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Obviously I don’t know your friends but I wonder if you have ever asked them directly about their experiences?
Regardless, the point is you have said that you have no issue with the colour of someone’s skin and that no one should be abused based on the colour of their skin. So rather than make comments about how people facing racism should let it roll off them, why not simply call it out when you see it, and support people who experience it, rather than tell them they have it wrong and are seeing racism where it doesn’t exist?
 
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