Ange in or out?

[Finney Is Back]

I had much more sympathy last season re the injuries. I’d never known anything like it! Every time we got an injured player back, 2 more got injured. It was often a net loss. But it has continued into this season so that is why I don’t really have a lot of sympathy because it appears to be at least some of Ange’s doing. How many players have we lost to due to heavy/bad tackles? I can only think of one which was Bentancur against Villa last season. The rest of them appear to break down in training or in matches. As I mentioned in the injury thread, Solanke has had two spells out already having stated every game for Bournemouth last season, one of the spells was before the Europa League started so we can’t even use Europe as an excuse for that one. Not to mention Maddison couldn’t complete 90 minutes in any game before his injury against Chelsea last season. Something isn’t right, whether it’s Ange’s methods, the medical staff, the conditioning or a combination of the above. It’s just not sustainable to keep signing players if there just going to get injured so frequently.

Very few injuries in football are the result of bad tackles.

 

[Kompakted]

Yes but your statement of “I've posted on here that we don't have a single player in the top 20 for minutes played and only 2 in the top 50” Is factually incorrect so I’m not sure why you are repeating it?

It's not factually incorrect. Premier league minutes for our players with ranking out of all PL players:
1) Pedro Porro (rank 37th): 1,986 mins
2) Dejan Kulusevski (rank 44th: 1,951 mins
3) Dominic Solanke (rank 110th): 1,601 mins
4) Son Heung Min (rank 113th): 1,589 mins
5) Brennan Johnson (rank 130th): 1,497 mins)
6) Destiny Udogie (rank 145th): 1,436 mins
7) James Maddison (rank 170th): 1,305 mins
Needless to say we are now well into generic midtable now.

If you extend it out to all competitions and appearances this season, then Dejan Kulusevski has the most minutes played this season with 2491 minutes played for us and Sweden.

He's 13th out of all PL players in minutes played across all comps.

Our next player is significantly down the list (Pape Sarr). Porro is next of our players and drops off due to lack of international minutes compared to the other two.

So overall in terms of minutes played our players are not out of kilter with what you'd expect a player playing for a PL club qualified for Europe to play. The issue may come more from the demands of the particular system we play. But not pure minutes played

 

[Raziel]

It's not factually incorrect. Premier league minutes for our players with ranking out of all PL players:
1) Pedro Porro (rank 37th): 1,986 mins
2) Dejan Kulusevski (rank 44th: 1,951 mins
3) Dominic Solanke (rank 110th): 1,601 mins
4) Son Heung Min (rank 113th): 1,589 mins
5) Brennan Johnson (rank 130th): 1,497 mins)
6) Destiny Udogie (rank 145th): 1,436 mins
7) James Maddison (rank 170th): 1,305 mins
Needless to say we are now well into generic midtable now.

If you extend it out to all competitions and appearances this season, then Dejan Kulusevski has the most minutes played this season with 2491 minutes played for us and Sweden.

He's 13th out of all PL players in minutes played across all comps.

Our next player is significantly down the list (Pape Sarr). Porro is next of our players and drops off due to lack of international minutes compared to the other two.

So overall in terms of minutes played our players are not out of kilter with what you'd expect a player playing for a PL club qualified for Europe to play. The issue may come more from the demands of the particular system we play. But not pure minutes played

As always, you can look at it from different view, the chart below someone put together of games played since last international break.

Some takeaways

- Only person with more minutes than Porro is a keeper
- Spurs has 3 of top 5
- Maybe the most interesting piece, no Liverpool, Forest or Chelsea player in top 15 most minutes played (City & Liverpool only have 1 each in top 20)

 

[metalgear]

Ah but we’ve scored 100 PL goals since then and have the best GD outside the top 7… echoes of glory?!

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If only goals quantity and goal difference can get you into champions league. 3 points for a win and no points for a loss is what we have to work with.

 

[metalgear]

Letting him ruin next season as well will be the real disaster.

Starts with the next transfer window...where we are appearing less attractive to good players