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Ange in or out?

Ange in or out?

  • In

    Votes: 90 58.1%

  • Out

    Votes: 65 41.9%
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    155
Mrs Vert said:
Yep and that point was against Wolves at home I think.

I have removed myself but I think I need to step back further
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I'm trying my damndest to give a rousing speech, or at least a reason to hope, mother of pearl that is bad. I stopped looking at us as things were bad, but eff me, has Ange got pics of Levy or something?

That's a lot worse than I thought possible 2 months ago, in fact its probably the worst possible outcome by a long shot. I really cant believe how fudging bad that is.
 
Cundies undies said:
I'm trying my damndest to give a rousing speech, or at least a reason to hope, mother of pearl that is bad. I stopped looking at us as things were bad, but eff me, has Ange got pics of Levy or something?

That's a lot worse than I thought possible 2 months ago, in fact its probably the worst possible outcome by a long shot. I really cant believe how fudging bad that is.
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1 win in 11 If you want another stat.

I don't even know how Levy can swing this in his favour. As the narrative will be. Ange didn't get anyone. But then Levy may thinks you injure everyone you got, so why give you more players??

I don't know what's going on with this club. And neither do they as it looks like
 
I didn't see today's game.
But fuk me, a defence of Porro, Drag, Davies, Gray?! Wtf.

He could have gone:
Porro, Drag, Gray, Davies - a LB at LB and two players that have a little experience together at CB, and have done pretty well (in the circumstances)

OR

Gray, Drag, Davies, Reg - a LB at LB, at RB at RB to rest the clearly knackered one.

But no. He decides to go square pegs in round holes and keep battering the already rusty peg.
That's reckless.

Time is up.
I'm done with this clown shoe.
 
Cundies undies said:
I'm trying my damndest to give a rousing speech, or at least a reason to hope, mother of pearl that is bad. I stopped looking at us as things were bad, but eff me, has Ange got pics of Levy or something?

That's a lot worse than I thought possible 2 months ago, in fact its probably the worst possible outcome by a long shot. I really cant believe how fudging bad that is.
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5 points from a possible 33.
 
monkeybarry said:
I didn't see today's game.
But fuk me, a defence of Porro, Drag, Davies, Gray?! Wtf.

He could have gone:
Porro, Drag, Gray, Davies - a LB at LB and two players that have a little experience together at CB, and have done pretty well (in the circumstances)

OR

Gray, Drag, Davies, Reg - a LB at LB, at RB at RB to rest the clearly knackered one.

But no. He decides to go square pegs in round holes and keep battering the already rusty peg.
That's reckless.

Time is up.
I'm done with this clown shoe.
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Baffling decision after baffling decision lately
 
I'm pretty certain that Ange with players back is able to get a tune from this team. What I don't know though is what the damage being done right now to the small core of players we have to rely on is.

It's all very well getting VdV Romero, Vicario, udogie, Johnson and Solanke back, but if in the meantime we break the rest of the squad then we are in such a mess. Right now you look at where the next points are coming from and Leicester at home would have been a strong candidate. If we can't pull that off then we may have all the points we're going to get this season.

With that in mind I worry that even a shiny new manager bounce won't get us out of this.

We really need the bottom four to fail big time. If one or two get a head of steam it may well be us and not Everton who are trembling.
 
Surfless said:
I'm pretty certain that Ange with players back is able to get a tune from this team. What I don't know though is what the damage being done right now to the small core of players we have to rely on is.

It's all very well getting VdV Romero, Vicario, udogie, Johnson and Solanke back, but if in the meantime we break the rest of the squad then we are in such a mess. Right now you look at where the next points are coming from and Leicester at home would have been a strong candidate. If we can't pull that off then we may have all the points we're going to get this season.

With that in mind I worry that even a shiny new manager bounce won't get us out of this.

We really need the bottom four to fail big time. If one or two get a head of steam it may well be us and not Everton who are trembling.
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Everton acted and got a new manager in and suddenly a team that looked clueless looks motivated and organised.
 
Surfless said:
I'm referring to the physical not mental, sorry, I should have been clearer.
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Mental affects physical and vice versa. If we had some kind of bounce mentally a lot of that look shattered could get a second wind. We've seen it so many times in sport. A down and out just gets a boost of energy from somewhere after looking dead on their feet.
 
Mrs Vert said:
1 win in 11 If you want another stat.

I don't even know how Levy can swing this in his favour. As the narrative will be. Ange didn't get anyone. But then Levy may thinks you injure everyone you got, so why give you more players??

I don't know what's going on with this club. And neither do they as it looks like
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I'm trying hard to think how to phrase this.
Ange (or whoever takes over) would need at least 3 years to rebuild, our squad was really that bad, Ange seems to have pointed nail guns at ppl and said "your it", without realising that his target practice dummies also have to stop wingers/attacking midfielders and balls over the top.

I mean really wtf!
 
I see people talk about Mason as interim if Ange left. But I’m not sure it would be him. Matt Wells is Senior Assistant Coach whereas Mason is Assistant Coach. Plus Wells has been Assistant Manager at Fulham, Bournemouth and Club Brugge in recent years.

I think he might be interim with Mason assisting.
 
Mrs Vert said:
1 win in 11 If you want another stat.

I don't even know how Levy can swing this in his favour. As the narrative will be. Ange didn't get anyone. But then Levy may thinks you injure everyone you got, so why give you more players??

I don't know what's going on with this club. And neither do they as it looks like
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Which is why we deserve to be relegated. The more I think about it the more I want us to be relegated so that bald pricks value can plummet.

Tbh I don't even think we have a choice, on form we are going down and Leicester wolves are better than us anyway so we will be 18th. Even United are now 5 points better than us.
 
monkeybarry said:
I didn't see today's game.
But fuk me, a defence of Porro, Drag, Davies, Gray?! Wtf.

He could have gone:
Porro, Drag, Gray, Davies - a LB at LB and two players that have a little experience together at CB, and have done pretty well (in the circumstances)

OR

Gray, Drag, Davies, Reg - a LB at LB, at RB at RB to rest the clearly knackered one.

But no. He decides to go square pegs in round holes and keep battering the already rusty peg.
That's reckless.

Time is up.
I'm done with this clown shoe.
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Mate you were better off not watching this taco in charge.

We were bad in the first half and scored, yet wanted them to score so gave them lots of chsnces.

Then second half we came out and they scored straight away with Flange just staring at the players not saying a thing.

Then they scored pretty much again straight away and then nearly got a third

We then looked absolutely clueless going forward, with son still on the pitch and he brought on Mikey Moore who tbf did well but Son was up front and then was a ghost.

Porro was a taco for both goals and showed why he's a useless defender, but he did get an assist to his name, oh and he blasted two chances wide when he should have crossed, but he did hit the bar after a deflection so the protectors will say he did well.

Flange decided not to try and save his job and put Yang on, instead he kept the tired Kulu on who is the saviour but really if he fudged back off to Italy I wouldn't be that sad.

Sarr was brick

Dragusin worried about his pony tail

Davies kept going long

Gray even looked a bit brick

That's my summary. But I did predict the right scoreline so I can't be all that too rubbish or inaccurate.

I can't tell you about the last 20 minutes as I turned it off but imagine it was more of the above with little huff and puff or urgency, a lot of sideways passing and backwards too, with the occasional attack that ended up going out for a goal kick.
 
Mrs Vert said:
1 win in 11 If you want another stat.

I don't even know how Levy can swing this in his favour. As the narrative will be. Ange didn't get anyone. But then Levy may thinks you injure everyone you got, so why give you more players??

I don't know what's going on with this club. And neither do they as it looks like
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It’s also naive to think the club will go out and buy quality replacements in reaction to an injury crisis. Never gonna happen. Unless the signing was planned long ago, the best we can hope for is a loan signing or two and how much quality are you likely to get on loan.
 
DeanoAustin said:
It’s also naive to think the club will go out and buy quality replacements in reaction to an injury crisis. Never gonna happen. Unless the signing was planned long ago, the best we can hope for is a loan signing or two and how much quality are you likely to get on loan.
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Given the circumstances I think we should have seen more movement in the market - if we can't get our long term targets in then we need to bite the bullet on short term deals or loans.
 
I've been pondering something different about Ange, but one of the things that is quite odd about him is he is a bit of a lone wolf. He doesn't tend to bring staff members with him he tends to just rock up and let a club build a team around him. I'm not sure if he's ever faced a kind of season like this one and he certainly probably hasn't faced it with the kind of global scrutiny you get in an elite league.....but you really need to be challenged when you're in charge. You need to have that trust and two-way challenging discussions particularly in stressful situations. I look at our coaches. Young. Not that experienced. And I look at Ange's personality. Look at the way he can be when he's challenged by reporters.

Do you think there's much challenge in terms of training, tactics or team selection? Or do you think the coaches just keep out of Ange's way and let him get on with it. Can imagine if one of them did challenge him he'd stare at them or snarl at them and they would whimper off with their tail vstween their legs never to mention it again.....
 
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