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Tosin & Mudryk deals with Chelsea

Mr Gogolak said:
What's done is done anyway. In the worst-case scenario, Mudryk is useless, hardly ever plays and goes back to Chelsea. If the manager plays him when he's not up to scratch, that's on him, not on the player.

To be honest, I never rated him, even when he was playing for Shakhtar but to each, his own...
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Yeh me either and TBH I think like other players people saw a handful of highlight clips and thought "yeh he is good" and based an entire thought process around him. That happens, we are all likely guilty of that.

The honest part is that I don't remember anyone on here wanting him for 75m at the end of his last playing season at Chelsea, thats telling
 
Diamond Lights said:
this feels overly dramatic.

We're not helping Chelsea, rivalries may exist for the most part on the school field but these are multi billion dollar businesses. You think a club would say "listen, i know you're bidding £5m more, but you are our rivals so we'll rather take £5m less and sell elsewhere". Come on now. I would say maybe direct rivals this could in theory happen, but not with majority. Hell look at Liverpool willing to sell Gakpo to City if it suited them.

Tosin i dont know but Chelsea fans dont rate him, that being said he's our 4th choice CB. We have a window in Jan if somethign big happens to one of our defenders, this meltdown really is overblown.

Mudryk again, dont really rate him and you are right he's not played competitive matches but as trained for the last two years in professional envrionment. If Savio, Kudus, Kulusevski, Xavi, Odobert are fit, along with Marmoush and Solanke, where do you put Mudryk? Nowhere, and that's the point.

Seriously, football fans who think Football Manager is real need to wake up in the real world and take emotion out sometimes.
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Nice idea but it doesn't work, football is emotion, positive and negative.

This has (I can post tons of social media coverage if you like) generated nothing but negative emotion, and as I've said, for what upside?
 
Raziel said:
Nice idea but it doesn't work, football is emotion, positive and negative.

This has (I can post tons of social media coverage if you like) generated nothing but negative emotion, and as I've said, for what upside?
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If you're desperately looking for an upside, I'd say either the guy is desperate for a chance to show what he can do (and literally resurrect his career) or he'll sit on his hands, pocket his Chelsea wages for five years and call it a day. In terms of motivation, it's sensible to assume he's head and shoulders above anyone else.
 
glasgowspur said:
With Chelsea "business model" I don't really see what us giving them £7m is much of a help.
They are currently looking at £120m+ from city.

Where is the toxicity, from the stands, because we are signing Chelsea players?
If so the problem is not players, the coach or board, it's the small minded support.
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I know this board is sometimes it's own bubble ..

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The response has been rabid, if people want to sit here and go "it doesn't affect the club or the team, it won't affect the stadium" .. don't know what to say ..

We took a window that we looked like a serious club all the way to the last 2 days, and turned it into an opportunity for Spurs to be mocked again.
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
Of course it’s easier than coming back from injury, TBF I never claimed otherwise. The point being that 2 years out will have an impact more so than if he had played regular top level football for 2 years, having a concern on what player turns up isn't that left field really

Not sure what logic or links AI used to come up with that summary, but it seem suss logic
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But the post from GB I replied to was this….

‘thinking coming back after serving 2 years of a 4 year ban for taking performance enhancing drugs (this wasn't a recreational case) is significantly worse than coming back from an injury. Especially as he's not been allowed access to facilities in that time’
 
Raziel said:
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The response has been rabid, if people want to sit here and go "it doesn't affect the club or the team, it won't affect the stadium" .. don't know what to say ..

We took a window that we looked like a serious club all the way to the last 2 days, and turned it into an opportunity for Spurs to be mocked again.
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Let them mock us, if that really is what spoils a pretty good window then people need to grow up and grow a pair.
We were mocked when we had kane and son.
We were being mocked last week.
As long as they get a reaction people will continue to mock.
 
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The response has been rabid, if people want to sit here and go "it doesn't affect the club or the team, it won't affect the stadium" .. don't know what to say ..

We took a window that we looked like a serious club all the way to the last 2 days, and turned it into an opportunity for Spurs to be mocked again.
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Mocked because a portion of our fanbase are acting like entitled drama queens. We’ve got a punt on a loan - is the idea that Mudryk is such a terrible person that he’s going to stink up the place? If he’s a brick player, then so be it, he won’t play. What’s the big deal? I just don’t get the outcry.
 
The FA said the test showed "a low concentration" of the prohibited cardiovascular medication.

It added that changes have since been made to the World Anti-Doping Agency (Wada) technical document regarding meldonium.

The FA said the changes are "not retroactive" but noted that had Mudryk's test been conducted today then "the concentration of meldonium in the sample would not have been reported" and no adverse finding would have been recorded.

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Mykhailo Mudryk ban: Chelsea winger free to return to football after doping case resolved

Chelsea and Ukraine winger Mykhailo Mudryk has not played since November 2024, and has been unable to access the club's training ground.
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I dont know much but can someone explain to me how different gakpo, him and Ndiyaye.
Are they not all entirely different?? Other than being able to play on left?
 
Raziel said:
I know this board is sometimes it's own bubble ..

The response has been rabid, if people want to sit here and go "it doesn't affect the club or the team, it won't affect the stadium" .. don't know what to say ..

We took a window that we looked like a serious club all the way to the last 2 days, and turned it into an opportunity for Spurs to be mocked again.
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We've already been mocked for almost getting relegated, for spending £100 million on Tonali, for spending £85 million on "twice relegated" Fernandes, for spending £75 million on Savio and probably for plenty of other things too. If you're worried about getting mocked then Spurs may not be the club for you.
 
Mrs Vert said:
I dont know much but can someone explain to me how different gakpo, him and Ndiyaye.
Are they not all entirely different?? Other than being able to play on left?
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All 3 are very different
That’s my frustration personally
One is a bit of a blunt weapon but a scorer too
The other is a tricky winger
And the last (Mudryk) is all about pace… but seems to have lost it
 
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