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Cristian Romero

MartyFunkhouser said:
I think we are moving with what and how the market is moving. There are some very real things happening in Europe with finances which have been spoken about on here for a couple of day, Stones going for a free two days after I said clubs are patching up their sides with frees showing that. There has to be some realism on what money is out there on the continent compared to the PL.

Given how clubs now look at their finances, getting our money back on a player who has been with us for the number of years he has and removing the wages is absolutely fine
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There's been little money in European leagues for years beyond Real, PSG.
They rely on the finances of PL teams to trickle their way.

How many foreign teams (Inc BIG ones) have had financial turmoil...proof of the struggle.

So if we want Cuti to go abroad...it's literally 3 or 4 teams. Lowering the price is the only way to get more buyers in the room.

From a player ability/stature/length of contract pov ...he easily feels like a £60m player.

But like any auction (which technically is the process any player known to be for sale is under) ...the buyers in the room will dictate the hammer price.
 
ricky2tricky4city said:
There's been little money in European leagues for years beyond Real, PSG.
They rely on the finances of PL teams to trickle their way.

How many foreign teams (Inc BIG ones) have had financial turmoil...proof of the struggle.

So if we want Cuti to go abroad...it's literally 3 or 4 teams. Lowering the price is the only way to get more buyers in the room.

From a player ability/stature/length of contract pov ...he easily feels like a £60m player.

But like any auction (which technically is the process any player known to be for sale is under) ...the buyers in the room will dictate the hammer price.
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From an Availability perspective you need to take the £60m and multiply it by the amount of games he is available for, if your a buying club
So about 2/3rds
 
ricky2tricky4city said:
There's been little money in European leagues for years beyond Real, PSG.
They rely on the finances of PL teams to trickle their way.

How many foreign teams (Inc BIG ones) have had financial turmoil...proof of the struggle.

So if we want Cuti to go abroad...it's literally 3 or 4 teams. Lowering the price is the only way to get more buyers in the room.

From a player ability/stature/length of contract pov ...he easily feels like a £60m player.

But like any auction (which technically is the process any player known to be for sale is under) ...the buyers in the room will dictate the hammer price.
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As I said the other day, the top 20 transfers this summer money wise, 15 now are PL and 5 abroad (including Saudi), none abroad have been defenders. Thats telling on all levels
 
I don't think age is a problem. He's 28. Same as his partner in the World Cup Final Lisandro Martinez. And then Otamendi came on for Martinez, and he is 38, in a WC Final!

I wonder if we totally ruled out a move to the Prem for a higher fee than we can get from abroad, as it feels like various teams (LIV) could do with him. Or maybe they know the refs dislike him.
 
Bullet said:
I wonder if we totally ruled out a move to the Prem for a higher fee than we can get from abroad, as it feels like various teams (LIV) could do with him. Or maybe they know the refs dislike him.
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I suspect with one major move in him at peak he wants abroad. Likely on 2 clubs in the PL who can afford him who we would sell to, its a narrowing market for him
 
TonyL said:
€40 is not most on here would have hoped for but I suppose the club needs to balance the books. I am quite sure it will become another stalemate if Levy is still in charge and we will end up getting nothing or very little when he leaves, which is an improvement. I think we may also need to cut our loss with Vicario.
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It was clear to me that would be the likely price - all that talk of 60-70m was naive
 
The lack of a sell-on fee because of his age is a major part of the low transfer fee.

Plus, if we have not managed to find a second team willing to bid for him then we have little leverage.
 
Gutter Boy said:
Age is everything in transfer fees these days. Over 26 or so and prices plummet
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  • Cristiano Ronaldo: €117 million (£105 million) from Real Madrid to Juventus in 2018 at age 33.
  • Antoine Griezmann: €120 million (£107 million) from Atlético Madrid to Barcelona in 2019 at age 28.
  • Harry Maguire: €87 million (£80 million) from Leicester City to Manchester United in 2019 at age 26.
  • Luis Suárez: €81.7 million (£73.5 million) from Liverpool to Barcelona in 2014 at age 27.
  • Miralem Pjanic: €60 million (£54 million) from Juventus to Barcelona in 2020 at age 30.
  • Casemiro: €70.6 million (£60 million) from Real Madrid to Manchester United in 2022 at age 30.
  • Paulinho: €42 million (£37.8 million) from Barcelona to Guangzhou Evergrande in 2018 at age 30.
  • Leonardo Bonucci: €42 million (£37.8 million) from Juventus to AC Milan in 2017 at age 30.
  • Robert Lewandowski: €45 million (£40.5 million) from Bayern Munich to Barcelona in 2022 at age 33. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7]
Im calling G-Bollooks™ on that. Especially since we sold Kane way past 26.
 
Surfless said:
  • Cristiano Ronaldo: €117 million (£105 million) from Real Madrid to Juventus in 2018 at age 33.
  • Antoine Griezmann: €120 million (£107 million) from Atlético Madrid to Barcelona in 2019 at age 28.
  • Harry Maguire: €87 million (£80 million) from Leicester City to Manchester United in 2019 at age 26.
  • Luis Suárez: €81.7 million (£73.5 million) from Liverpool to Barcelona in 2014 at age 27.
  • Miralem Pjanic: €60 million (£54 million) from Juventus to Barcelona in 2020 at age 30.
  • Casemiro: €70.6 million (£60 million) from Real Madrid to Manchester United in 2022 at age 30.
  • Paulinho: €42 million (£37.8 million) from Barcelona to Guangzhou Evergrande in 2018 at age 30.
  • Leonardo Bonucci: €42 million (£37.8 million) from Juventus to AC Milan in 2017 at age 30.
  • Robert Lewandowski: €45 million (£40.5 million) from Bayern Munich to Barcelona in 2022 at age 33. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7]
Im calling G-Bollooks™ on that. Especially since we sold Kane way past 26.
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Guimaraes going for £80M
 
Surfless said:
  • Cristiano Ronaldo: €117 million (£105 million) from Real Madrid to Juventus in 2018 at age 33.
  • Antoine Griezmann: €120 million (£107 million) from Atlético Madrid to Barcelona in 2019 at age 28.
  • Harry Maguire: €87 million (£80 million) from Leicester City to Manchester United in 2019 at age 26.
  • Luis Suárez: €81.7 million (£73.5 million) from Liverpool to Barcelona in 2014 at age 27.
  • Miralem Pjanic: €60 million (£54 million) from Juventus to Barcelona in 2020 at age 30.
  • Casemiro: €70.6 million (£60 million) from Real Madrid to Manchester United in 2022 at age 30.
  • Paulinho: €42 million (£37.8 million) from Barcelona to Guangzhou Evergrande in 2018 at age 30.
  • Leonardo Bonucci: €42 million (£37.8 million) from Juventus to AC Milan in 2017 at age 30.
  • Robert Lewandowski: €45 million (£40.5 million) from Bayern Munich to Barcelona in 2022 at age 33. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7]
Im calling G-Bollooks™ on that. Especially since we sold Kane way past 26.
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And look at the direction straights many of those clubs find themselves in for such spending.

FFP and so on has also changed the landscape
 
TonyL said:
€40 is not most on here would have hoped for but I suppose the club needs to balance the books. I am quite sure it will become another stalemate if Levy is still in charge and we will end up getting nothing or very little when he leaves, which is an improvement. I think we may also need to cut our loss with Vicario.
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€40 is about £35.22p, which seems a bit low, even for a player who can expect to get booed at most English grounds next season if he stays.

(The above is not an entirely serious comment, even though I have never made a typing misteak inn moi liffe).
 
Surfless said:
  • Cristiano Ronaldo: €117 million (£105 million) from Real Madrid to Juventus in 2018 at age 33.
  • Antoine Griezmann: €120 million (£107 million) from Atlético Madrid to Barcelona in 2019 at age 28.
  • Harry Maguire: €87 million (£80 million) from Leicester City to Manchester United in 2019 at age 26.
  • Luis Suárez: €81.7 million (£73.5 million) from Liverpool to Barcelona in 2014 at age 27.
  • Miralem Pjanic: €60 million (£54 million) from Juventus to Barcelona in 2020 at age 30.
  • Casemiro: €70.6 million (£60 million) from Real Madrid to Manchester United in 2022 at age 30.
  • Paulinho: €42 million (£37.8 million) from Barcelona to Guangzhou Evergrande in 2018 at age 30.
  • Leonardo Bonucci: €42 million (£37.8 million) from Juventus to AC Milan in 2017 at age 30.
  • Robert Lewandowski: €45 million (£40.5 million) from Bayern Munich to Barcelona in 2022 at age 33. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7]
Im calling G-Bollooks™ on that. Especially since we sold Kane way past 26.
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A lot of those are pre-COVID though and two are for defenders. The world, and soccer finances in general, have changed a lot since then.

35 mil does seem below market value but if you factor in…

a) the whole world knows we need to move him on
b) we haven’t found a second team to create a bidding war…

…then if this is the best offer we can get we have to take it. Any asset is only worth what someone else is willing to pay for it.
 
If Levy was still in charge we would have not made a move for Van Hecke until Romero had been sold. Which wouldn’t be until someone came close to his valuation of £50M+. That would not have happened until the last day of the window when £42M is accepted.

In the meantime, Van Hecke has moved to Arsenal as there replacment for Saliba who’s out until the new year.

We are OK though because we also have not let Dragusin go because his value has not been met. We didn’t sign Senesi either as he wanted big money for a 29 year old coming form Bournemouth.

Our CB’s for the new season are Danso, Dragusin, VDV & Davies. We finish 12th. De Zerbi already wants to leave.

But Levy didn’t get his pants pulled down so it’s ok.
 
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