robp135
Terry Fenwick
Nice edit. That’s the spirit.
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Djed Spence
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Nice edit. That’s the spirit.
Penwith Pete
Rohan Ricketts
I see your PM. I'll read it and respond tomorrow.
thfcsteff
Ricky Villa
Oh boy...swinging low there amigo...
thfcsteff
Ricky Villa
Ffs, why does it always get brought back to that, give it a break. I think Rob talks an awful lot of gonads sometimes (sorry, mate) but I've never thought he's a bigot.
In fairness Pete, Rob's literally just brought the 'r' word out again for a bit of trolling LOL! So he's definitely up for stoking that fire, for whatever reason he might have...
thfcsteff
Ricky Villa
I'll add a final thought. I think we have to also consider that Spence might not want to be just a back-up? He might want regular first-team football. It might be that we end up with a situation where the player wants to go and the money is right. I'd take that if it were the case. Equally, if he was prepared to rotate/fight for his place, we'd have some amazing depth in what I really feel could be a serious top 4/title push. As some have said already, it's a win-win either way.
robp135
Terry Fenwick
Yeh need to go back further.
RunTMC
Ilie Dumitrescu
Out of these options I would go with A.
But I’d prefer Bergvall to go on loan to a premier league club. He struggles with positioning/awareness and decision making, knowing when to carry vs pass. Those things can be learnt. But you need experience, and that means regular games which he won’t get here. I think he had a very high ceiling.
It breaks my heart but I’m also willing to sell Sarr. I just kind of wish we never got Gallagher in Jan. But he’s not going anywhere and will be a useful squad play
thfcsteff
Ricky Villa
It's all good, I really don't mate.
Bishop
Paul Walsh
That absolutely the best thing about De Zerbi so far. He didn't rate our midfield options and decided to we had to do something about it.
NaijaSpurs
Cecil Poynton
It seems to me the "bad attitude" label is almost exclusively reserved for Black players? If a white player gets frustrated or clashes with a manager, they usually get a pass for being "passionate leaders" or having an "elite winning mentality." But the second a Black player shows the exact same frustration, they get slaughtered by pundits and fans for being disruptive or lazy. Am I missing something here, or is this double standard as blatant to everyone else as it is to me?
revlis
John Lacy
It seems to me the "bad attitude" label is almost exclusively reserved for Black players? If a white player gets frustrated or clashes with a manager, they usually get a pass for being "passionate leaders" or having an "elite winning mentality." But the second a Black player shows the exact same frustration, they get slaughtered by pundits and fans for being disruptive or lazy. Am I missing something here, or is this double standard as blatant to everyone else as it is to me?
There are 100% biases at play, just as there are with Asian players who are apparently signed to sell shirts.
NaijaSpurs
Cecil Poynton
Funny how no one is bitching about Bellingham's attitude right now during the WC as he is head and shoulders one England's two best players.
Now if he, Saka and Rashford were to miss penalties in a shootout against Norway tomorrow on the otherhand
Now if he, Saka and Rashford were to miss penalties in a shootout against Norway tomorrow on the otherhand
MartyFunkhouser
Vic Buckingham
The "wrong type of fan" comment by that CFT was 100% race driven.
I am not sure with Djed and I don't wanna get involved in it to that level. But beyond the lack of handshake and his demeanour in interviews, people seem motivated to stick it to him by attributing comments he never made and cropping interviews from people to make it seem worse. Why that is, only they will know.
Not rating a player is fine, I would rather they just say that too
thfcsteff
Ricky Villa
It seems to me the "bad attitude" label is almost exclusively reserved for Black players? If a white player gets frustrated or clashes with a manager, they usually get a pass for being "passionate leaders" or having an "elite winning mentality." But the second a Black player shows the exact same frustration, they get slaughtered by pundits and fans for being disruptive or lazy. Am I missing something here, or is this double standard as blatant to everyone else as it is to me?
Absolutely.
You're not missing anything IMO.
K.D.D.D.D.Soc
Luka Modric
Funny how no one is bitching about Bellingham's attitude right now during the WC as he is head and shoulders one England's two best players.
Now if he, Saka and Rashford were to miss penalties in a shootout against Norway tomorrow on the otherhand
I think Bellingham is an outstanding player with the potential to be a great. His greatest weakness is his temperament, he loses focus too easily and is likely to get on the wrong side of officals with his complaining and rash challenges, it's not the colour of his skin Gascoinge was similar.
Gascgoine is a good example of someone who has had so many issues. Assault, domestic violence, racism. And he's still pretty safe from being judged by people.
Dele defo doesn't get the same grace.
MartyFunkhouser
Vic Buckingham
And I am not sure Dele had an attitude per say, what appeared (well to me anyway) is he lost the hunger, which impacted his training but then it became clear why that might be. I think Poch likely provided a stabilising influence
Just a quick google can tell you the likes of Tevez, Ibrahimovic, Barton, Bentley, Bendtner, Cassano, Bellamy and more have been labelled with a bad attitude and arrogant. The idea that these are some special labels for black players is nonsense - if you don't agree that he has a bad attitude then fine, I don't think he does personally but I understand how some could think this with his demeanor and the odd misguided action - but it is quite a stretch he is being accused of these things on here because of the colour of his skin and it's sadly an easy go to accusation....
MartyFunkhouser
Vic Buckingham
With all due respect you have used people who have done some pretty abhorrent things in every day life and some on the pitch, of course people labelled them. Including Barton, I mean come on pal.
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