Mrs Vert
Dean Austin
Oh what it would be like to stick with a manager for at least 3yrs..... guess we will never know.
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Roberto De Zerbi *OFFICIAL*
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Gazza Dazzla
Les Ferdinand
You can’t just stick with any old manager, it has to be the right one, or at the very least not a brick one! It’s just as much about admitting you’ve made a fudge up and having the balls to rectify it sometimes.
Would you have stuck with Frank for 3 years? We’d have been in league one... Or Tudor?
Yiddo
Dimitar Berbatov
To be fair they only speak for about 5% of all Spurs supporters.Sky reporting that the Greenwood issue will be addressed by RDZ at his first press conference.
Also: “The THST don’t speak for all Spurs supporters…,” says Sky journalist. No s hit, Sherlock!
parj
Adel Taarabt
Has De Zerbi ever done 3 years?
Silly McSilly Face
Eidur Gudjohnsen
This is the thing. Dynasty managers are rare. A lot of clubs are successful because they bin the manager off at the first signs of things getting stale. And the real successful dynasty managers are the ones that not only identify the radical changes necessary to stay at the top, but get the backing from their club to do just that. Fergie at Man Utd the classic example. He probably built at least 3 completely different squads in his time there. He got rid of players like Stam, Van Nistelrooy and Beckham when you would be thinking "you're mad" but he probably saw "they've lost that 5-10% here, they are in the comfort zone".
My biggest sadness following Spurs is we had that. Poch identified that players like Alli, Eriksen etc were mentally burning out and needed selling/replacing.....we never backed him....
DeanoAustin
Ian Walker
The bit I don't get here is that there is a very real threat of relegation. I think everyone has to accept that.
We've just made de Zerbi the 3rd highest paid coach in the country. He's signed a 5 year deal with us. What happens if we go down? Are we going to continue to pay him that salary? If so, that's nuts and is a sign of how desperate we are. If not and he there is some sort of reduction clause, he isn't going to stick around at a level that's below where he could be working and for a salary that isn't his market value.
I'd love to know the ins and outs of this deal.
Silly McSilly Face
Eidur Gudjohnsen
As it is one individual it probably isn't a financial game changer even in the championship....
WillWeEverBeGoodAgain
Johnny nice-tits
Daisuk
Barry Daines
Agreed. This «we should keep a manager for more than two years at all costs» trope is nonsensical. Having a manager hired for more than two years don’t make them any better. If you have someone good that may not hit the highs straight away, there’s an argument to be had for letting them get time, but in the case of say Frank and Ange, it would’ve been a disaster to keep either of them on (although Ange had technically deserved to be given a few more months).
DeanoAustin
Ian Walker
Reportedly, we’re playing him £12m a year. The average salary in The Championship is about £1.5m. That’d be insane when we’ll have lost £250m in revenue, be laying people off and may end up under FFP pressure.
I’m not knocking the appointment of de Zerbi. I think he’ll keep us up. But from the perspective of how this has been managed and handled, it seems absolutely mad.
WillWeEverBeGoodAgain
Johnny nice-tits
Interesting possibility
SissokoWasGood (BoL)
Pat van den Hauwe
I’m assuming we’re going to keep paying him it, and it is part of a well thought through, long term plan to invest in the guy that we want to be our manager for a long time. And it was a way to lock him in. He won’t get a bigger club than ours offering this amount of money for this long a time frame. So it buys us the optionality of even if we do go down, we have a good manager embedding his principles and giving us the best chance of going straight back up, and a season in tier 2 being an aberration we recover quickly from. We can then be a newly promoted side but from a position of strength.
If it’s not that, and we’re genuinely over a barrel with respect to giving him a huge pay out even if he’s not successful with us and if he can walk in the summer anyway…well I’ll be annoyed but I won’t actually be surprised.
But like a total sucker I’m assuming there’s some well thought through logic from the team that brought us ‘we ran a comprehensive process - at pace - and Thomas Frank was the clear stand out.’
parklane1
Teddy Sheringham
I doubt it is as many as that to be honest. Wasters.
Appreciate you sharing this.
Silly McSilly Face
Eidur Gudjohnsen
Yeah and it really is about getting the sporting director and overall scouting, analytics and medical set up good. That is what brings real stability to a club. One of the reasons we are such a mess is we appointed Paratici who if you read up on it favoured a more defensive coach that plays 3-4-3. We then lurched backwards and forwards from that position and Levy/board's preference for more attacking and managers that played different formations:
- Mourinho (4-5-1 counter attacking)
- Nuno (3-4-3 counter attacking)
-Conte (3-4-3 counter attacking)
- Ange (4-3-3 high press attacking inverted FB)
-Frank (4-5-1 counter attacking)
Just all over the place!
DeanoAustin
Ian Walker
I hope you’re right because if we go down, that’s the best case scenario and we’ll still be paying almost ten times as much as the average manager wage in that league.
However, de Zerbi is combustible and he doesn’t stay places for long. He’d seem a very odd choice on paper to be the one to stick with us through thick and thin for 5 years. Good decisions are seldom made from a state of desperation and we’re desperate. This has all the hallmarks to me of a massive gamble that he will keep us up. If he doesn’t, I think Vinai and Lange have just thrown petrol on the inferno.
Legohamster
Dimitar Berbatov
I'm in the area and most the Brighton fans I know love him
He had key players sold (parting the model) and they were not really replaced.
Which lead to him melting down, given we are going to have a small transfer budget unless the owners invest, this could
Be over in the summer
SpurMeUp
Erik Thorstvedt
Strangely, this appointment gives me some hope. I think we'll stick with him whatever happens. We need to rebuild. We need stability. We need a coach who plays the right kind of football.
Let's stop all the conjecture, whinging, even worrying about the drop, and just get back to enjoying football. Does it affect your bank ballance if we go down? Might save you money. It might bruise our egos, but it would be a new experience and maybe cleansing.
Most important is we get a good football manager in, and just stick with it now. Let them fail if they have to, make mistakes, learn and develop.
Let's stop all the conjecture, whinging, even worrying about the drop, and just get back to enjoying football. Does it affect your bank ballance if we go down? Might save you money. It might bruise our egos, but it would be a new experience and maybe cleansing.
Most important is we get a good football manager in, and just stick with it now. Let them fail if they have to, make mistakes, learn and develop.
Ace Face
Carlo Cudicini
Yep. They are generally very positive on his time there.I'm in the area and most the Brighton fans I know love him
He had key players sold (parting the model) and they were not really replaced.
Which lead to him melting down, given we are going to have a small transfer budget unless the owners invest, this could
Be over in the summer
Outside of the Greenwood issue, I don’t see any footballing reasons to not be excited about his appointment.