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Interim manager thread 2.0

lurker of old said:
i thought the Guardian article was pretty poor. Some good points but no detail to back up the overview. No mention of injuries, no mention of causes of decline, such as Levy working without a Director of Football and trying to do it all himself...no mention of the shocking refereeing decisions we've had etc. If I was marking it as an essay, I'd say "Promising but must try harder!"
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All fair comment indeed.
 
thfcsteff said:
It's a really good overview. On the pod we found ourselved looking back at some of the awful reffing decisions Tudor endured, particularly the disallowed Muani equaliser against the Goons. If that goal stands (as it should've) he might still be around and we might be well clear of trouble. That poor bloke got (as Milo called it) 'The Full Tottenham' in terms of experiences!
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Those first 20 minutes against Atletico Madrid.....he'll have been watching it, the players falling all over the place, the keeper, replacing the keeper, the replacement keeper chucking another in.....and probably just pondering the meaning of life....wouldn't be surprised if the guy ends up as a monk up a mountain in northern Thailand....
 
Mikey10 said:
There may be concerns about RDZ but, having just seen Poch on Sky Sports News, I will be furious if we accept him back to the club before he sorts out his hair. He looks like an extra from Miami Vice. It’s an utter disgrace.
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He looked broken to me as well, as if the news about RDZ has hit him hard.
 
Robspur12 said:
He did get that shocking ref decision vs Arsenal but, bloody hell, he was mostly the master of his own demise. In a league as tight as the PL you cannot ship as many goals as we did under Tudor and hope to put enough points on the board. PL teams these days are all about not losing first. A lesson we have not yet learnt and why I’m still not confident we will survive relegation.
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It's somewhat amusing two of the clubs that have a "way" that the fans demand (the West Ham way and the Spurs way
) are one of the two that look likely to go down

The PL (like you say) is about solid defences and not making mistakes.

we are miles from that.
 
Silly McSilly Face said:
Those first 20 minutes against Atletico Madrid.....he'll have been watching it, the players falling all over the place, the keeper, replacing the keeper, the replacement keeper chucking another in.....and probably just pondering the meaning of life....wouldn't be surprised if the guy ends up as a monk up a mountain in northern Thailand....
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Oh absolutely hahaha...it was a horror film that kept on giving!
 
Legohamster said:
It's somewhat amusing two of the clubs that have a "way" that the fans demand (the West Ham way and the Spurs way
) are one of the two that look likely to go down

The PL (like you say) is about solid defences and not making mistakes.

we are miles from that.
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Well West Ham are certainly playing the 'Nuno way' these days. Defensive, well organised, hard to beat, early ball forward.
 
LutonSpurs said:
How have you got to this lol. You want to see the headlines about Sterling compared to Gazza and compare their sins? It's easily done but it will make you look a fool.

Or we can look at this forum and Thomas Partey compared to Gazza.

Shall we? And whet you gonna gain from that?
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Absolutely, let's.....
....but you'll need to substantiate your claim it's about race, not another characteristic.

I've shown the reasoning for my position that I think it's less likely to be race and more likely to be "quirkiness" (that term doesn't seem the most appropriate, but I can't think of a better one at the moment).
 
monkeybarry said:
Absolutely, let's.....
....but you'll need to substantiate your claim it's about race, not another characteristic.

I've shown the reasoning for my position that I think it's less likely to be race and more likely to be "quirkiness" (that term doesn't seem the most appropriate, but I can't think of a better one at the moment).
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I don't need to. As I'm comfortable with my position pal. You do you.
 
LutonSpurs said:
I don't need to. As I'm comfortable with my position pal. You do you.
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I get why you would think race plays a part, I’m sure it may to some degrees, only need to look at the penalty misses for England and the difference of treatment of say Saka to Kane when he missed, it’s certainly uncomfortable. That said, when it comes to the Gazza situation you have to take into account the time period. At that time you got front page of the newspaper for a couple of days, then the next big scandal takes over and it slowly disappears into obscurity, over time of not being in the news it loses the same effect whereas nowadays with social media, rightly or wrongly, it is always one click away so constantly fresh on the mind and discussed. So I think there are a multitude of factors as to why the treatment of those mentioned players are very different, all of which of course has absolutely nothing to do with RDZ as he hasn’t been charged or accused of anything :)
 
demotw said:
I get why you would think race plays a part, I’m sure it may to some degrees, only need to look at the penalty misses for England and the difference of treatment of say Saka to Kane when he missed, it’s certainly uncomfortable. That said, when it comes to the Gazza situation you have to take into account the time period. At that time you got front page of the newspaper for a couple of days, then the next big scandal takes over and it slowly disappears into obscurity, over time of not being in the news it loses the same effect whereas nowadays with social media, rightly or wrongly, it is always one click away so constantly fresh on the mind and discussed. So I think there are a multitude of factors as to why the treatment of those mentioned players are very different, all of which of course has absolutely nothing to do with RDZ as he hasn’t been charged or accused of anything :)
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You don't have to take anything in to account from the time. People right now on this forum are struggling with this in 2026. It's just complex as they've overlooked his victims for years and haven't with others. It's now hard for them to explain so there's a fair bit of whataboutery. I'm not surprised.
 
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