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Guglielmo Vicario

If we want a 'top' keeper who might be the other potential candidates?? I cant think of many big names.. maybe ter Stegen is no longer wanted by Barcelona, Maignan seems to want out of Milan (although I dont know much about him other than Chelsea were close to getting him last summer and he's now France no2 behind the new PSG keeper).. any other candidates?
 
dingdongo said:
If we want a 'top' keeper who might be the other potential candidates?? I cant think of many big names.. maybe ter Stegen is no longer wanted by Barcelona, Maignan seems to want out of Milan (although I dont know much about him other than Chelsea were close to getting him last summer and he's now France no2 behind the new PSG keeper).. any other candidates?
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Maignan seems to have regressed at Milan
He was quality but they were happy to sell him
 
harr1984 said:
Kind of highlights the point about Vic - Yes he's not perfect but he's very good and we are unlikely to sign someone guaranteed to be better all round hence the best links can come up with is someone like Martinez. It's a no from me....
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Vicario is very good and under rated because people still think he is weak on set pieces despite being the best in the league as a team … so clearly he do doing something (and we were very good on them last season too)

And people want a ball playing keeper but there really really ain’t many who can pass and do the fundamental role of keeping the ball out
 
I'm expecting Pickford's name to appear at some point. 81 caps for England and only 31. He's definitely ironed out some cracks in his game over the years and performs at a very consistently high level.

It's all pointless to me though as Vic is himself in that same cycle of improvement. You can already see that especially with how he is starting to own his 18 yard box more. He's clearly got some leadership qualities that the manager's love. I'm not sure why you would look beyond him as he comes into his prime and is completely assimilated to the PL. He is clearly a top professional.
 
Muttley said:
I'm expecting Pickford's name to appear at some point. 81 caps for England and only 31. He's definitely ironed out some cracks in his game over the years and performs at a very consistently high level.

It's all pointless to me though as Vic is himself in that same cycle of improvement. You can already see that especially with how he is starting to own his 18 yard box more. He's clearly got some leadership qualities that the manager's love. I'm not sure why you would look beyond him as he comes into his prime and is completely assimilated to the PL. He is clearly a top professional.
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I made an argument for Pickford a few years back, his weaknesses were very similar to Lloris, assuming we were scheming around that.

Vic is way ahead of him now though imo.
 
Bedfordspurs said:
Vicario is very good and under rated because people still think he is weak on set pieces despite being the best in the league as a team … so clearly he do doing something (and we were very good on them last season too)

And people want a ball playing keeper but there really really ain’t many who can pass and do the fundamental role of keeping the ball out
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He is still weak at set pieces. We will see how he copes on Sunday against arguably the best team in Europe when it comes to set pieces. Lucky Gabriel is injured though.
 
Jurgen the German said:
He is still weak at set pieces. We will see how he copes on Sunday against arguably the best team in Europe when it comes to set pieces. Lucky Gabriel is injured though.
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So is that an excuse if we do well?
I mean we are officially the best in the league at dealing with them
And we were right up there last season too even under Ange
And that’s not me saying he is perfect on them but I’m highlighting that he has changed his game somewhat but people haven’t changed their opinions
 
Muttley said:
I'm expecting Pickford's name to appear at some point. 81 caps for England and only 31. He's definitely ironed out some cracks in his game over the years and performs at a very consistently high level.

It's all pointless to me though as Vic is himself in that same cycle of improvement. You can already see that especially with how he is starting to own his 18 yard box more. He's clearly got some leadership qualities that the manager's love. I'm not sure why you would look beyond him as he comes into his prime and is completely assimilated to the PL. He is clearly a top professional.
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Pickford who let in 2 set pieces against us in the same game where Vic made several unreal stops
Pickford is a good keeper by the way and great at international level
 
Bedfordspurs said:
So is that an excuse if we do well?
I mean we are officially the best in the league at dealing with them
And we were right up there last season too even under Ange
And that’s not me saying he is perfect on them but I’m highlighting that he has changed his game somewhat but people haven’t changed their opinions
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There’s no two ways about it, it helps that Gabriel isn’t playing. They’re still dangerous from set pieces with or without him.

He still stays rooted to his line and seldom comes to try and catch/punch the ball. He needs to bulk up a bit IMO. He’s not exactly an imposing figure in the box.

He’s not terrible but he’s very upgradable in my opinion.
 
Jurgen the German said:
There’s no two ways about it, it helps that Gabriel isn’t playing. They’re still dangerous from set pieces with or without him.

He still stays rooted to his line and seldom comes to try and catch/punch the ball. He needs to bulk up a bit IMO. He’s not exactly an imposing figure in the box.

He’s not terrible but he’s very upgradable in my opinion.
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He isn’t the reason we’re currently the best in the league on set pieces but because he saves the chances that do come… he is part of it
I actually can’t think of a keeper that is good at set pieces in the way you describe because they mostly don’t play like that now
 
Bedfordspurs said:
Knew that would come
Did you see the recent set piece debacles he has had
He looks confident on them but was known for being flappy even in France
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Haven’t seen much of his displays in France other than in the CL. I don’t get why keepers aren’t more assertive in the box. They’re never going to get penalised they’re essentially a protected species.
 
Jurgen the German said:
Haven’t seen much of his displays in France other than in the CL. I don’t get why keepers aren’t more assertive in the box. They’re never going to get penalised they’re essentially a protected species.
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I think it’s more to do with how teams are set up defending
It’s what we have changed to great effect
I love a keeper coming for everything myself but I’m not a coach
 
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