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Chrissivad said:
Bunch of fudging moaners.

Extra £100m+ potentially getting put into the club... Nah we want more....

We could spend £300m in a window and we would still have people saying it wasn't enough. I hate (some of) our fans (mainly on X)
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I don’t read it as moaning, more just critical of the reporting.

I think it’s factual that a one off 100m investment is not going to meaningfully change much for us. It’s helpful, sure. But it’s not a game changer.
 
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Chrissivad said:
Bunch of fudging moaners.

Extra £100m+ potentially getting put into the club... Nah we want more....

We could spend £300m in a window and we would still have people saying it wasn't enough. I hate (some of) our fans (mainly on X)
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Wait, you actually believe Matt Law and that 100m investment is the big play by those in charge now to move us up a level?!
 
Glenda's Legs said:
Yes Liverpool just spent 130M on one player. On top of everything else they spent.
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The very best players are going to cost that much because if what they've done already. We aren't in that market usually and I'm fine with that. I just want us to maximise the opportunities we have on the pitch.

What matters now is ambition. It’s not about competing with the very richest clubs pound-for-pound, but about being smarter, braver, and more decisive when opportunities arise. If we act with clarity and conviction, we can still close the gap.

Hopefully this signals a real shift in attitude and approach, not just a change in who makes the decisions. Otherwise, what’s the point? Levy was only the figurehead. ENIC needs to use the foundations Levy built as a springboard forward.

In the end, that’s all I can judge ENIC on.
 
Grays_1890 said:
Indicative of owners not wanting to put in their own cash though, these deals don't worry me and they please the fans because they get the money they want spent. But its not really the sign of intent IMO
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Trying hard to resist commenting but…. Nah fudge it
This is exactly the case imo
They have no intent or ability to bring cash in without liquidating assets… rich people don’t like doing that IMO (@Finney Is Back thoughts?)
So they either borrow against the asset or find money down a sofa
 
Bedfordspurs said:
Trying hard to resist commenting but…. Nah fudge it
This is exactly the case imo
They have no intent or ability to bring cash in without liquidating assets… rich people don’t like doing that IMO (@Finney Is Back thoughts?)
So they either borrow against the asset or find money down a sofa
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Yep, they either can't or won't put their own money in

Thing is, if you borrow against future income, that needs to be paid back, so the money won't be there in future unless you continue to do the same thing. But then to what point? 90m only buys you 3/4 of a player who changes this club
 
Grays_1890 said:
Yep, they either can't or won't put their own money in

Thing is, if you borrow against future income, that needs to be paid back, so the money won't be there in future unless you continue to do the same thing. But then to what point? 90m only buys you 3/4 of a player who changes this club
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The only way they can bring the money needed in is to do a share issue and get a minorty investor in. Doesn't seem like they are interested in that though. Can't see anything changing.
 
Grays_1890 said:
Yep, they either can't or won't put their own money in

Thing is, if you borrow against future income, that needs to be paid back, so the money won't be there in future unless you continue to do the same thing. But then to what point? 90m only buys you 3/4 of a player who changes this club
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100%
As I’ve said loads, the naive fan base will lap it up as money in but all super short term and IMO clearly to cover costs (transfer debt is my guess)
It’s business but as you say, it’s less money to spend and also is typically at huge rates like a bridging loan
I’ve used bridging finance in property deals and it’s big money interest
I really really hope in wrong but when I saw Vinais speech the other day I was just thinking smoke and mirrors
I work in procurement (all be it sales now) and I’ve had to become a good judge of people on initial view…. He came across to me as a puppet. A very very well paid puppet. He may be a great operator but we would never know unless money is there and I just don’t see the Lewis hierarchy doing that
Also worth people considering the new Lewis leaders are old ish folk too
They aren’t young pups trying to make a mark as it may sound (again IMO)
 
Bedfordspurs said:
100%
As I’ve said loads, the naive fan base will lap it up as money in but all super short term and IMO clearly to cover costs (transfer debt is my guess)
It’s business but as you say, it’s less money to spend and also is typically at huge rates like a bridging loan
I’ve used bridging finance in property deals and it’s big money interest
I really really hope in wrong but when I saw Vinais speech the other day I was just thinking smoke and mirrors
I work in procurement (all be it sales now) and I’ve had to become a good judge of people on initial view…. He came across to me as a puppet. A very very well paid puppet. He may be a great operator but we would never know unless money is there and I just don’t see the Lewis hierarchy doing that
Also worth people considering the new Lewis leaders are old ish folk too
They aren’t young pups trying to make a mark as it may sound (again IMO)
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Interesting. Does this move suggest a sale is likely within the next 12 months?
 
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