Brennan Johnson

[mudshark]

His reaction during the first Ipswich goal last season wasn't great:

But he's also got literal scars from putting his head in danger, so perhaps that affected him mentally:

Maybe, yeah. Just put me in mind of Ghaly that time ... Ouch!

 

[metalgear]

We are still going to play with 11 players and if not Johnson, someone else with better all round ability might score less but enable the team do do better and dominate more games.

Not sure why Brennan gets so much flak from fans, averages a goal every 4 games in the PL , record so far 105 matches , 26 goals , not as good as say Salah but pretty good when compared to other wide players in the PL.

Gets in to Deeney's team of the week on the Beeb,
Brennan Johnson (Tottenham): He was fantastic again. He looks like he's going to have an unbelievable season because Kudus is going to take a lot of the focus of the teams coming from that right-hand side on that left foot. The pace and power he shows is unbelievable. That's two in two for Johnson. I thought he was excellent against Emirates Marketing Project.

 

[SirPercyHotspur]

We are still going to play with 11 players and if not Johnson, someone else with better all round ability might score less but enable the team do do better and dominate more games.

Johnson was certainly poor yesterday and Odobert gave us much more threat on the left.

 

[ricky2tricky4city]

I think the book is pretty much closed on Johnson.

He's good at crossing the ball on the run.
He's very good at being in the right place at the right time and then finishing in those situations.

He's below average at everything else.

My point is, I don't see him breaking out into any other kind of player other than what we see now. So my expectations are set. So not going to moan about Luka Modric being crap at the high jump.

His numbers keep him viable. They dry up, he's a goner. But if we replace him with someone with a better overall skillet, we lose those numbers as well,by choice.

He's been forced onto the left, which probably is not going to suit him. So we have to hope that his game and mentality is suited to being a back up and a type of player that thrives on coming on from the bench and/or not starting every week.

 

[Jurgen the German]

I think the book is pretty much closed on Johnson.

He's good at crossing the ball on the run.
He's very good at being in the right place at the right time and then finishing in those situations.

He's below average at everything else.

My point is, I don't see him breaking out into any other kind of player other than what we see now. So my expectations are set. So not going to moan about Luka Modric being crap at the high jump.

His numbers keep him viable. They dry up, he's a goner. But if we replace him with someone with a better overall skillet, we lose those numbers as well,by choice.

He's been forced onto the left, which probably is not going to suit him. So we have to hope that his game and mentality is suited to being a back up and a type of player that thrives on coming on from the bench and/or not starting every week.

Frank did the right thing subbing him yesterday but I said to my mate he can’t sub him cos he’s the most likely to score for us and hey presto the best chance we had came from his side of the pitch which he probably would have scored but offers next to nothing else.

 

[NaijaSpurs]

Johnson was certainly poor yesterday and Odobert gave us much more threat on the left.

Yes he was poor, and so was most of the team yesterday. But arguably thr biggest problem was that Porro cannot defend 1 on 1 the way Spence can. Most of their attacks came down our right flank and we could not deal with them

 

[ricky2tricky4city]

Yes he was poor, and so was most of the team yesterday. But arguably thr biggest problem was that Porro cannot defend 1 on 1 the way Spence can. Most of their attacks came down our right flank and we could not deal with them

It's a shame Udogie couldn't have come on at halftime (maybe limited by advice from the medical department?) as getting Spence over to RB to match up against Saemenyo was a obvious switch.

 

[harr1984]

I think the book is pretty much closed on Johnson.

He's good at crossing the ball on the run.
He's very good at being in the right place at the right time and then finishing in those situations.

He's below average at everything else.

My point is, I don't see him breaking out into any other kind of player other than what we see now. So my expectations are set. So not going to moan about Luka Modric being crap at the high jump.

His numbers keep him viable. They dry up, he's a goner. But if we replace him with someone with a better overall skillet, we lose those numbers as well,by choice.

He's been forced onto the left, which probably is not going to suit him. So we have to hope that his game and mentality is suited to being a back up and a type of player that thrives on coming on from the bench and/or not starting every week.

Agree with almost all of that except Johnson being backup, and him being shoe horned into the left hand side highlights the problems we have. He isn't really a good enough winger all round, but he is the only one who can put the ball in the back of the net and in his first season he had a good amount of assists too.

It has been said for ages, our forwards are average and can easily been improved on but some on here like to oversell how good ours are just because they are playing in our shirt. If we had others with decent numbers Johnson wouldn't play, but we don't. The fact people have got so giddy about Kudus shows how average our forward are because Kudus' end product has been average at best in his career and hasn't been any different here. Johnson out of the team and who can you hang your hat on to score goals? Cant even hang your hat on our CFs to stay fit. Our forward line is still a problem area if we have any ambitions of being competitive....

 

[ricky2tricky4city]

Agree with almost all of that except Johnson being backup, and him being shoe horned into the left hand side highlights the problems we have. He isn't really a good enough winger all round, but he is the only one who can put the ball in the back of the net and in his first season he had a good amount of assists too.

It has been said for ages, our forwards are average and can easily been improved on but some on here like to oversell how good ours are just because they are playing in our shirt. If we had others with decent numbers Johnson wouldn't play, but we don't. The fact people have got so giddy about Kudus shows how average our forward are because Kudus' end product has been average at best in his career and hasn't been any different here. Johnson out of the team and who can you hang your hat on to score goals? Cant even hang your hat on our CFs to stay fit. Our forward line is still a problem area if we have any ambitions of being competitive....

Well we keep buying forwards for it and rome wasn't built in a day.

 

[metalgear]

what do you think of johnson after the bournemouth game?

Funny thing, some people love slagging Johnson off, and they love to ignore the fact that no other current player at the club has scored as many goals as him. He has scored 25 goals for us, and Kulu is in second place with 20.

 

[SubZero]

We are still going to play with 11 players and if not Johnson, someone else with better all round ability might score less but enable the team do do better and dominate more games.

Johnson is our main goal threat, but that's more a worry for the team than a badge of excellence. We as a team are good, even great in bursts and short spells, which can be good for cups but bad for league. A Xavi or Eze will or would not have changed that. New manager bounce lasted exactly 2 games. We must strive to replace perennial underperformers having obviously hit their ceiling, no matter the occasional great game. 2 great games does not balance out 2 seasons of averageness (in general, not thinking about Johnson).

That is if we want to be somewhat top 4 relevant again, of course. If we want to linger around mid-table focusing on cups, everything is awesome.

 

[metalgear]

Johnson is our main goal threat, but that's more a worry for the team than a badge of excellence. We as a team are good, even great in bursts and short spells, which can be good for cups but bad for league. A Xavi or Eze will or would not have changed that. New manager bounce lasted exactly 2 games. We must strive to replace perennial underperformers having obviously hit their ceiling, no matter the occasional great game. 2 great games does not balance out 2 seasons of averageness (in general, not thinking about Johnson).

That is if we want to be somewhat top 4 relevant again, of course. If we want to linger around mid-table focusing on cups, everything is awesome.

johnson and richy score goals but only when the conditions suits them. no reason we can't find another son or berbatov or keane or defoe because we are and always been an attacking team.

agree about upgrades - given our budget we have to work on the weakest links first.

 

[Mabspurs]

what do you think of johnson after the bournemouth game?

What exactly did you expect Johnson to do in a game where all three midfielders were unable to piece a simple 10 yard pass, let alone provide the through balls or crosses to the far post that are his bread and butter? Do a Maddison and go back to our box to collect the ball and start an attack? Go on a mazy run taking out four defenders in the process? If so, you are living in cuckoo land - that is not his game. Which is why he should have been hooked off at half time.... it was a game where his skill set were useless

Having said that, what did Odebert do, that was especially more effective? Other than blast the only proper chance we had.... which I would bet Johnson would have got in target; at least. But then why ruin the whole spacegoating exercise....

 

[braineclipse]

Yes he was poor, and so was most of the team yesterday. But arguably thr biggest problem was that Porro cannot defend 1 on 1 the way Spence can. Most of their attacks came down our right flank and we could not deal with them

Our biggest problem was not being able to progress the ball imo. We had the majority of possession, but essentially never got it into dangerous areas until they dropped off because they can't press like that for 90 minutes.

Offer little to no attacking threat and imo no amount of great defending will be the solution. And when a lot of our defending is against counter attacks and our press being bypassed we'll struggle defensively no matter who our defenders are.

 

[braineclipse]

I think the book is pretty much closed on Johnson.

He's good at crossing the ball on the run.
He's very good at being in the right place at the right time and then finishing in those situations.

He's below average at everything else.

My point is, I don't see him breaking out into any other kind of player other than what we see now. So my expectations are set. So not going to moan about Luka Modric being crap at the high jump.

His numbers keep him viable. They dry up, he's a goner. But if we replace him with someone with a better overall skillet, we lose those numbers as well,by choice.

He's been forced onto the left, which probably is not going to suit him. So we have to hope that his game and mentality is suited to being a back up and a type of player that thrives on coming on from the bench and/or not starting every week.

What exactly did you expect Johnson to do in a game where all three midfielders were unable to piece a simple 10 yard pass, let alone provide the through balls or crosses to the far post that are his bread and butter? Do a Maddison and go back to our box to collect the ball and start an attack? Go on a mazy run taking out four defenders in the process? If so, you are living in cuckoo land - that is not his game. Which is why he should have been hooked off at half time.... it was a game where his skill set were useless

Having said that, what did Odebert do, that was especially more effective? Other than blast the only proper chance we had.... which I would bet Johnson would have got in target; at least. But then why ruin the whole spacegoating exercise....

Agreed with both these posts. Though a bit tok early to say if he can be effective on the left or not. I kinda think he can.

Don't judge Modric on his ability to win headers is spot on.

Some players are such that the game conditions barely matter, they'll be good almost regardless of tactics and teammates and the opposition. If we only had players like that we'd essentially be the best team in the world. They're inherently rare. Most players need favourable conditions to thrive and it's up to the club and manager to get us a squad that's balanced enough that we as a team can thrive in different game states and conditions. Not on the players to do what they cannot do.

 

[Bishop]

What exactly did you expect Johnson to do in a game where all three midfielders were unable to piece a simple 10 yard pass, let alone provide the through balls or crosses to the far post that are his bread and butter? Do a Maddison and go back to our box to collect the ball and start an attack? Go on a mazy run taking out four defenders in the process? If so, you are living in cuckoo land - that is not his game. Which is why he should have been hooked off at half time.... it was a game where his skill set were useless

Having said that, what did Odebert do, that was especially more effective? Other than blast the only proper chance we had.... which I would bet Johnson would have got in target; at least. But then why ruin the whole spacegoating exercise....

Control it maybe? Not have it bounce 10nyards almost every time it was passed to him? Maybe keep it for a few seconds and help progress the possession? Why couldn't he go on a mazy run? Why are our standards so low for him? Why are we so ready to accept not even basic standards for this player?

The chance Odobert missed never even happened when Johnson was on the pitch largely because Johnson never helped keep the ball in the final 3rd. It was Odobert's combinational play that led to the chance in the first place, something Johnson so far has demonstrated himself to be incapable of doing. Odobert was part of the play before the chance.

The issue with Johnson is he is unable to effect the play without someone else doing it for him. If we spoon feed him chances he might finish them off but if the rest of the team is playing poorly he will be ineffective or down right awful like he was on Saturday. He's a passenger and as I've said numerous times this squad is not good enough overall to carry a player who contributes nothing in general play, or in this case actively sabotaged us with 90% of his touches.

 

[Diamond Lights]

Brennan getting a lot of stick but overlooks the problem that he's our most experienced winger, and we sold our starting LW and captain over a month ago. We shouldn't be in this position 3 games into the season where you have critical gaps to fill, it should be additionals around the fringes you are filling at this point.

 

[Bishop]

Brennan getting a lot of stick but overlooks the problem that he's our most experienced winger, and we sold our starting LW and captain over a month ago. We shouldn't be in this position 3 games into the season where you have critical gaps to fill, it should be additionals around the fringes you are filling at this point.

This is Spurs, this is what we do. It's rare we address key areas with considered additions in a timely fashion. It's never been and likely under this leader never will be our MO.

 

[Yiddo]

Its pretty obvious that when Johnson starts teams are going to target Kudus because Johnson is no where near as threatening. We need a left winger who will scare the defence aswell as Kudus does. Johnson is not that person.

 

[Diamond Lights]

Its pretty obvious that when Johnson starts teams are going to target Kudus because Johnson is no where near as threatening. We need a left winger who will scare the defence aswell as Kudus does. Johnson is not that person.

agree but again that's not his fault that we are playing a right winger who's played his entire career predominantly on the right, as a left winger because we lack experience in that position.