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Eberechi Eze

fernadez said:
What's this talk about Frank didn't want him?
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There are press reports that explain why our first target was MGW and why Eze was a late push by us and they point to concerns over data indicating that physically he does not cover a lot of ground in games etc. The press reports paint this more as an overall club concern rather than pinpointed on Frank but thfcsteff claims to have insight that Frank wasn't a fan in terms of fit for what he looks for in the number 10 position but was talked into backing the move by those in the transfer team (i'm guessing Lange and co.) So much for the pivot to a "data-led" approach if true.
 
Finney Is Back said:
Lange is a very good chief scout.

The question I would ask is whether a really respected DoF like Monchi would be prepared to work at Spurs where he is unlikely to get much responsibility from the chairman. The very best talent in any field won’t accept being micro managed. The likes of Hitchen will though.
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Yeah look at the scathing stuff Mitchell had to say about us after walking.
 
Finney Is Back said:
A journalist doesn’t break a story that Arsenal have agreed a fee for a player at the time?…. Why not?!?
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1. It wasn’t fully agreed. Heads of terms as it were may have been discussed - a broad outline of the deal in principle….without it being fully agreed.

2. Why do you think the journalist knew then? They probably only got the story recently.
 
When did Eze become this hugely talented game changer that he appears to be portrayed as now?
He's 27 playing at Crystal Palace, how many caps does he have, why are only us and arsenal in for him, he's good but for me he's not a game changer for us and definitely not for arsenal.
He's an upgrade on martinili and trossard but I can't see him dislodging anyone else from their side.
 
Lemonade Money said:
Too many people passing judgement without a Scooby Doo what went on.

Also, we seem to have stumbled on a pretty good formation with Sarr playing as a false 10, so maybe this is a blessing?
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Sarr over MGW for sure. Although we may need back up. If Kulu can get back in time that would be sorted.

I guess we will try to address the left wing. But we’re not desperate with Johnson scoring off the left last game and Odobert and Tel.
 
harr1984 said:
No offence brain, but the good old 'let's evaluate at the end of the window' that gets trotted out every window after botched attempts is getting tiresome now.

We have had endless opportunities to kick on yet there is always some half baked excuse as to why. ENIC couldn't do it, followed by trying to paint a positive picture of the window all because we acquired one or two decent level PL players supplemented with a load of young hopefuls that we have to pray end up really good.

The long and short of it is ENIC have done well to maximise their asset, but if we ever want to kick on as a FOOTBALL CLUB then we have to have more ambitious owners. This has little to do with Eze, this merely just highlights the owners deficiencies because of how brutal this one is - We have been doing the same dance with transfers for years, nothing has changed regardless of how low or high our stock is....
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Even at the end of the window it will be “well we cant judge for at least a year or two” so it gets pushed back because it’s an uncomfortable situation. I don’t see the need to sugarcoat everything and make everything sound uber positive. Reminds me of the gun control debate in America “now’s not the time to talk about guns”.
 
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No way to dress this up. It’s obvious that we wanted him and dithered. However in my opinion he is overrated. He would have slowed our transitions down and is not a one touch player.

It’s just a kick in the teeth that he’s gone over to that mob. So it’s an ego thing for me.

He won’t win them the league his numbers don’t stack up for that kind of money. Arsenal will have two players in him and Odegard that play very similarly.

Had they got Rodrigo I would have dropped a brick.

We need a playmaker who can drop deep and hit teams on the break with pace and a decent ball player not one that holds the ball and does some tricks.

Good luck to him.

We now need to show our intent and get a solid player to help Frank and not one for the future. I’ll give you a clue Tyler Dybling is not the answer
 
I think it's valid for the meltdowners and betwetters (inc myself in this, although im not surprised with how this has panned out) that again people seem to think this is just an isolated incident and it's not.

He has always been frugal and at many times it has cost us over and over again. Change the board and yet things will remain the same.

We have another good manger and I think we can all agree if he manages to stay for 4yrs it will be a bloody miracle.

As been mentioned before we have so many holes and the fact its 12 days to go and still our big holes are not sorted. Its annoying. We have money to spend. Not sold anyone. Bloody Forest have got 4 people in by the time we gave fudged around on MGW, and Eze.

Now if people are fine with waiting to the last day to get some things done. The fine. Im not. We lost a cup due to squad depth and had 3 months to get more in. If people want to include our loans as signings. Cool. I dont.

Dont say you want to win things when your continuous actions shows otherwise.
 
SpurMeUp said:
Based on your narrative of the club, or what actually happened?

In a £60-70m deal with tens of millions in wages as well, do you think an agent and player would sign off quickly and ignore other opportunities? What you’re suggesting would need quite incompetent agents and player acting on impulse.

Maybe you could suggest that we acted too soon. We moved too early. Though we may not have raised the price 10m for the goons if we’d waited. I don’t have a problem with us being opportunistic. We still have the cash and a world of possibilities.
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I'm not sure I understand what you're saying TBH.
The situation is not even 'ITK' at this point or any of that nonsense. We had a deal in place. The player had agreed personal terms. Some shenanegans went on between Parrish and Levy re: add-ons. We didn't close the deal as we would've. Arsenal lost Havertz and decided they needed to take this opportunity. Because we hadn't closed the deal they were able to. As I understand it, Eze isn't getting paid any more by the goons than we were prepared to pay him, the only difference in the deals struck is that the Goons said 'yes' to what Parrish wanted without pause. Look, maybe Parrish was playing a game with Levy, but the facts appear to be that there was a lot of dingdongering around with the add-ons and we didn't find settlement.
I have absolutely no doubt that both Eze and his agent/agency were fully aware of every sniff the goons were making, but there is nothing to suggest that we could not have closed the deal because the player/agent would've obstructed it.

One question for you. How do you define this situation as us being 'opportunistic'? Surely the only way that works is if we take advantage of the opportunity?
 
Gazza said:
No way to dress this up. It’s obvious that we wanted him and dithered. However in my opinion he is overrated. He would have slowed our transitions down and is not a one touch player.

It’s just a kick in the teeth that he’s gone over to that mob. So it’s an ego thing for me.

He won’t win them the league his numbers don’t stack up for that kind of money. Arsenal will have two players in him and Odegard that play very similarly.

Had they got Rodrigo I would have dropped a brick.

We need a playmaker who can drop deep and hit teams on the break with pace and a decent ball player not one that holds the ball and does some tricks.

Good luck to him.

We now need to show our intent and get a solid player to help Frank and not one for the future. I’ll give you a clue Tyler Dybling is not the answer
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And now im guessing we gonna be scrabbling around like dingdongs and end up getting someone on the last day who will be ready in 3yrs time. If we tinkling about for 68 for him. We are not going any higher for anybody else unless they feel desperate. Which honestly I dont think they do. So it will be back to making do with what we got and pushing another player there to "fill the hole:

I hope you are right about Eze. More than anything its the fact he has gone there and how its done. Levy and friends are getting out played by Palace and Forest!
 
glasgowspur said:
When did Eze become this hugely talented game changer that he appears to be portrayed as now?
He's 27 playing at Crystal Palace, how many caps does he have, why are only us and arsenal in for him, he's good but for me he's not a game changer for us and definitely not for arsenal.
He's an upgrade on martinili and trossard but I can't see him dislodging anyone else from their side.
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When Maddison got injured 2 weeks ago and people started bricking the bed (maybe including our recruitment team)
 
Chelsea are in for Garnacho and Simons right? We might sign the one they don’t. Both on hefty wages I guess.

Or we could go for a less established player. Tomorrows star.
 
Gazza said:
No way to dress this up. It’s obvious that we wanted him and dithered. However in my opinion he is overrated. He would have slowed our transitions down and is not a one touch player.

It’s just a kick in the teeth that he’s gone over to that mob. So it’s an ego thing for me.

He won’t win them the league his numbers don’t stack up for that kind of money. Arsenal will have two players in him and Odegard that play very similarly.

Had they got Rodrigo I would have dropped a brick.

We need a playmaker who can drop deep and hit teams on the break with pace and a decent ball player not one that holds the ball and does some tricks.

Good luck to him.

We now need to show our intent and get a solid player to help Frank and not one for the future. I’ll give you a clue Tyler Dybling is not the answer
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You do realise good players producing decent numbers at lower level teams have their numbers go up? Look at how Rice has improved at them.

There's no dressing it up to make us feel better, he's a quality player. Otherwise we should be worried about Kudus if we just take numbers for what they did at their previous club...
 
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