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***OMT*** Tottenham Hotspur v LiVARpool - Sunday April 27th 4.30pm

It is very disheartening to lose matches in this sort of manner and it keeps happening. This should have been a derby but they gave us no chance, we played like a 15th place team that we are. Even if we win Europa League we are going to be some sort of Ten Hag's United, not a match for the top teams but sneaking in a trophy somehow. This is not sustainable and it wasn't for United either. I was prepared to forget everything if we won the Europa League and I still am, but I fear that next season we will be mid table too if he stays.

He'll be gone 4 weeks tomorrow. We wont beat Bodo/Glimt in the Europa League and Levy will relieve him of his duties the morning after the Brighton game
 
This would not be the same. Mourinho was not THIS bad. And he had a pedigree of winning finals.

And IIRC at the time, Guardiola had only lost 1 once in something like 16/17 finals, and that was to Mourinho. It literally made no sense to sack at that precise time, fair dos after the final, but crazy to sack a 'serial winner' days before a final
 

We've had a few matches lately where we thankfully haven't done it, but now, away to the best team in the league, we start faffing about again. I just can't wrap my head around it. Why keep on trying something we have mostly (80%) failed at for two years now? It's just baffling. Clearly a tactic. Bodø Glimt is obviously a much inferior team to Liverpool, but we should not do this brick against them either. Suicidal.
 
We've had a few matches lately where we thankfully haven't done it, but now, away to the best team in the league, we start faffing about again. I just can't wrap my head around it. Why keep on trying something we have mostly (80%) failed at for two years now? It's just baffling. Clearly a tactic. Bodø Glimt is obviously a much inferior team to Liverpool, but we should not do this brick against them either. Suicidal.
Its the point where all questions land at his door. Suicidal tactics...........
 
Credit to Liverpool, worthy champions and they have been the outstanding team all year, consistent and again today obviously. I thought we started the game well and sort of made things difficult for them. Even apart from the goal, I thought just in general I thought we had decent territory but once they got in front with the atmosphere inside the stadium fair to say it was going to be difficult for us to claw them back and that's how it proved.

Jeez Ange. It wasn’t the atmosphere that stopped us clawing it back.

Those are sad words really.
'Decent territory'...I am not sure what he means.
That was such a weird and callow performance. Not unexpected sadly. This whole 'press conference' stuff is just an over-extended charade at this point...
 
Those are sad words really.
'Decent territory'...I am not sure what he means.
That was such a weird and callow performance. Not unexpected sadly. This whole 'press conference' stuff is just an over-extended charade at this point...

I was expecting it today, but the nature, the idea we turn up and roll like that, could have been 6 or 7 and people just shrug and say "ohh well its a weakened side, its a dead game"............I mean are those the standards we set these days and if so, can we complain about where we are
 
Nothing to do with Ange is it..
Who runs this club?
The owners the Chairman and the Directors need to go..
We need a complete clearout and if we don't we will have another 25 years of nothing.
We havn't won what was the Championship since 1961 but have no fear the way it's going we may well have a chance of that.

Danny Levy ..probably not a bad person who has desperately tried but he has to admit to himself he has failed with this club.
My goat also is against all the other directors ..share holders etc more than DL.
If they had any passion for this club they would be asking serious questions!..but they probably do not understand anything about football anyway!
I'm so sure they even do not even seriously care because I would be hoping mad now if I was a director or anything to do with Enic.
This club is the most embarrassing club in the EPL.
I have supported DL and given him the benefit of the doubt even recently! and that he could take us forward..but he and the other Enic and shareholders have failed.

One thing Danny can be proud of is the stadium but on the football side sadly he and the hanger's on directors have failed the running of this club.

Whats even sadder! what I believe must happen won't happen because there is not enough critical thinking [ does anyone care] and you can see that as we can expect even more years of Spurzy and even more years of nothingness and more years of being a laughingstock from what is a very rich football club.

I have to admit I have no idea how we can find the right backer for Spurs and a staff with the knowledge and passion to take the club forward.

Maybe some bright all knowing intellectual on this forum can come up with some answers...mmmmm!

As we all know Ange has failed unless he wins this Euro cup... but remember we have had better managers than him also to no avail.

Anyway...all you can do is to say what you think.
 
I was expecting it today, but the nature, the idea we turn up and roll like that, could have been 6 or 7 and people just shrug and say "ohh well its a weakened side, its a dead game"............I mean are those the standards we set these days and if so, can we complain about where we are
These lads are professional athletes. They are competitive animals. There is no way they cross that line wanting anything other than to win.

To lose like that is a really poor reflection on our club. To lose 19 (and counting) in the league is unacceptable to the point that a head or heads have got to roll. There is no excuse.
 
These lads are professional athletes. They are competitive animals. There is no way they cross that line wanting anything other than to win.

To lose like that is a really poor reflection on our club. To lose 19 (and counting) in the league is unacceptable to the point that a head or heads have got to roll. There is no excuse.

People are wiping off 19 losses in the league like its nothing mate, people deluding themselves that the EL for is some kind of cure all because its at odds with his overall performance as our manager on the MASSIVE hope we win the next three games needed to win it. I wanna win something badly, this club needs it, but I am not deluding myself about why we are so deep into it and shrugging of 19 league losses like its collateral damage of the EL
 
Very sensibly I spent the afternoon heart to heart with some lovely ladies, dancing Argentine Tango. Got in the car to hear we lost 5-1. But just seen the line up: this is a manager DESPERATE to win the Europa and salvage some pride. Not sure he's going to do it, but the team selection surely says it all?
 
Very sensibly I spent the afternoon heart to heart with some lovely ladies, dancing Argentine Tango. Got in the car to hear we lost 5-1. But just seen the line up: this is a manager DESPERATE to win the Europa and salvage some pride. Not sure he's going to do it, but the team selection surely says it all?
Agreed
8 out of 10 outfield players changed from the previous game
And then Ange's comments afterwards, saying how Thursday is the focus
It was a waste of time, I'm glad I fell asleep at 4-1
 
I was expecting it today, but the nature, the idea we turn up and roll like that, could have been 6 or 7 and people just shrug and say "ohh well its a weakened side, its a dead game"............I mean are those the standards we set these days and if so, can we complain about where we are
We have no standards from the top through to the players we constantly make excuses for. This is what you get when you have no standards.
 
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