Zaha

[nayimfromthehalfwayline]

Out of respect to Palace I don't think he should or needs to. If it true he has fallen out with Parrish then I'd guess it's because he has told Parrish that he want to move and join a CL club or a club aiming to win the title if an acceptable offer comes in. So it's a case of let me go if that offer comes in and if it doesn't then I will stay and do my best for Palace. That's fair enough imo. Then it's up to the likes of Chelski, City, Spurs etc to get their arses in gear and start negotiating with Palace.

I absolutely do not approve of that action, and would most certainly prefer that he didnt go that way - Im just pointing out that in the transfer tango, this is usually the next step.

Total quesswork on my part - but - IMHO there was a fabled "gentlemans agreement" when he signed the long term deal last year.

There is, IMO, no way he intended to stay for the 5-6 years he signed, but he took the payrise, and secured his value for the club on the basis they would allow a move to a bigger side should they come calling. (IMO - of course)

That being the case, this is where it gets a bit murky. I think he will, much like Modric, kick off if he feels that agreement isnt being honoured. And, of course, Parish will be looking at the market and thinking its a massive payday - pushing the limit of Zahas value. That potential agreement, and his desire to maximise his profits will likely be at odds.

 

[r-u-s-x]

If £70m is the price for Zaha, how much for a player with some end product?

Comparing last full season (2016 /2107) you pay double for one less goal and three more assists (in a less competitive league)

https://www.whoscored.com/Players/299513/History/Ousmane-Dembélé
https://www.whoscored.com/Players/85059/History/Wilfried-Zaha

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/41044659

 

[nayimfromthehalfwayline]

but...but...but...Dembele is young, foreign, and highly rated... he must be better than some boring old homegrown player I havent paid any real attention to for years...

 

[billyiddo]

Dembele was widely aknowledged as a top prospect within the footballing world, it's why the top tier clubs were in for him and he ended up at Barcelona - don't think these clubs get swayed too much by flashy sounding foreign names, probably do a bit of scouting.

Output when signing a prospect v output when signing an established player in his peak years will hold different meanings also

 

[r-u-s-x]

Dembele was widely aknowledged as a top prospect within the footballing world, it's why the top tier clubs were in for him and he ended up at Barcelona.

Output when signing a prospect v output when signing an established player in his peak years will hold different meanings also

Agreed the established player would probably cost about half.

 

[billyiddo]

Agreed the established player would probably cost about half.

Personally i wouldn't have been advocating us spending that sort of money on Dembele if he were an option but can see why elite level clubs will pay over the odds for a player considered one of brightest prospects on the game - Mbappe and Neymar deals show there's little logic to be gained from looking at the spending of those clubs.

 

[milo]

Comparisons with our current options

http://www2.squawka.com/comparison-...passes/chances_created/successful_take_ons#90

 

[milo]

Comparisons with our current options

http://www2.squawka.com/comparison-...passes/chances_created/successful_take_ons#90

I've added one more metric to keep P55 happy

http://www2.squawka.com/comparison-...ted/successful_take_ons/goals_from_corners#90

 

[nayimfromthehalfwayline]

I've added one more metric to keep P55 happy

http://www2.squawka.com/comparison-...ted/successful_take_ons/goals_from_corners#90

Much more comparable to those guys than I anticipated.

So if Zaha isnt £70m, Alli or Son arent either?

 

[milo]

Much more comparable to those guys than I anticipated.

So if Zaha isnt £70m, Alli or Son arent either?

To be fair, Lamela and Moura have very small sample sizes, so we shouldn't put too much weight on their figures. Comparisons with Alli and Son are fair though.

 

[DeleHarry]

Hmmm Crystal Palace close to signing Max Meyer it seems.....he plays on the left and cuts in doesn't he? Must mean someone in that position could be on the way out

 

[harr1984]

I love Dele as much as the next Spurs fan but I don’t think we couldn’t get someone in who could seriously challenge him. His form can be a bit patchy, completely understandable for his age but he is one who could benefit from another AM coming in for him to up his game especially someone like Zaha who would seriously pressure him for a spot....

 

[Jordinho]

Hmmm Crystal Palace close to signing Max Meyer it seems.....he plays on the left and cuts in doesn't he? Must mean someone in that position could be on the way out

Time for us to swoop in and sign him instead. He couldn't possibly be any worse than Zaha and he'd be much cheaper .

 

[nayimfromthehalfwayline]

To be fair, Lamela and Moura have very small sample sizes, so we shouldn't put too much weight on their figures. Comparisons with Alli and Son are fair though.

Hence I didnt put them forward, though even on a small sample size as its per90 metrics it is still positive for Zaha IMO.

Hmmm Crystal Palace close to signing Max Meyer it seems.....he plays on the left and cuts in doesn't he? Must mean someone in that position could be on the way out

Thats the latest rumour, could add up - could be BS!

 

[DeleHarry]

Time for us to swoop in and sign him instead. He couldn't possibly be any worse than Zaha and he'd be much cheaper .

You don't rate Zaha at all. Fair enough

What do you think of Dele as a footballer?

 

[Gutter Boy]

Hmmm Crystal Palace close to signing Max Meyer it seems.....he plays on the left and cuts in doesn't he? Must mean someone in that position could be on the way out

Meyer's a central AM. He replaced Holtby at Schalke.

 

[DeleHarry]

Meyer's a central AM. He replaced Holtby at Schalke.

Aha ok

Let's hope Woy has one of his wacky ideas like putting Harry on corner duty and decides that Meyer is wide left attacker

 

[nayimfromthehalfwayline]

LOL- would he be more a replacement to Cabaye then. Who, if memory serves, was on big money too - so likely will replace him in the wage bill as well!

 

[billyiddo]

You don't rate Zaha at all. Fair enough

What do you think of Dele as a footballer?

Are you trying to draw comparisons between them? Would be interesting to see your angle if so

 

[Benny_Lad]

I love Dele as much as the next Spurs fan but I don’t think we couldn’t get someone in who could seriously challenge him. His form can be a bit patchy, completely understandable for his age but he is one who could benefit from another AM coming in for him to up his game especially someone like Zaha who would seriously pressure him for a spot....

I thought his form swings were overdone in the media. His game changed slightly last season, he wasn't as close to Harry as he was the season before but still managed around 30 goals/assists in all comps (as soon as Harry was injured he found his scoring form again). He's also hard to play against as hes quick and strong, he keeps possession and moves us up the pitch and helps keep us there.

If Zaha did come we'd have loads of options. Could drop CE deeper and play Son, Alli and Zaha behind Kane for example.