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What is our partnership with Madrid?

clevelandspur said:
A player we never wanted or needed to sell and just gave a new contract to? ****ing right they should have paid far more than he was worth, as would be the case if any other club wanted to buy him
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Everyone is for sale at the right price.

The price for bale was more than worthwhile.
 
Spursalot said:
Everyone is for sale at the right price.

The price for bale was more than worthwhile.
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Agreed but you make it sound as if Madrid were doing us a favor? I am happy with the price we got but would have preferred them leaving Bale alone and having him another year as I suppose most other Spurs fans. It wasn't like we weren't going to get a large fee a year or two from now for him
 
clevelandspur said:
Agreed but you make it sound as if Madrid were doing us a favor? I am happy with the price we got but would have preferred them leaving Bale alone and having him another year as I suppose most other Spurs fans. It wasn't like we weren't going to get a large fee a year or two from now for him
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I think I would take the vast wealth of signings we have bought in over us keeping bale. However that is using hindsight I guess.

Didn't mean a favour, but I'd much rather we sell him on our terms than we sell him with his contract running down. We'd not have gotten near the same price next year.
 
I object to Spurs being involved in such a partnership on principle. These deals involve a big club and a small one and if we were a threat to Real they would not enter into such an agreement. It's not good for the image, ambition, or mentality within the club
 
Naughton16 said:
I object to Spurs being involved in such a partnership on principle. These deals involve a big club and a small one and if we were a threat to Real they would not enter into such an agreement. It's not good for the image, ambition, or mentality within the club
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I thought the entering into this agreement was our idea in addition to the money they paid us for the modric deal.

If the small club wants the deal and thinks it will help them compete better then **** whatever anyone outside the club thinks about the deal really.


at the end of the day, if the people in charge did not think we were gaining positives from this deal, they would have ended it. It speaks volumes that we have not.
 
Spursalot said:
I thought the entering into this agreement was our idea in addition to the money they paid us for the modric deal.

If the small club wants the deal and thinks it will help them compete better then **** whatever anyone outside the club thinks about the deal really.


at the end of the day, if the people in charge did not think we were gaining positives from this deal, they would have ended it. It speaks volumes that we have not.
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Good point, but what possible positives could there be from it? Sell on fees from Bale/Modric? Access to their training facilities abroad? A box for El Clasico?!
 
SPURSphenomenon said:
Good point, but what possible positives could there be from it? Sell on fees from Bale/Modric? Access to their training facilities abroad? A box for El Clasico?!
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The rumours were that we gained access to their scouting database and their training grounds, to share training techniques.

If you consider how much a club like Madrid probably spend on scouting that would be a massive positive.
 
awesome dawson said:
Our partnership with Real Madrid is, they take our best player and hand us a load of cash, which we promptly blow on inferior replacements.
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'blow'
'inferior replacements'

If Bale truly is one of the top 5 players in the world (and a world record fee to one of the biggest clubs in the world suggests he is not far off) then there's no immediate shame in a replacement for him being tagged as inferior.

As it turns out, it appears that we have invested less than half the fee in 2 younger, high quality players who are critically acclaimed and seem likely to have the giftings necessary to allow us to evolve beyond a strategy of creating space for one man to do his magic.
We appear to have invested the whole fee in creating a superior team.
 
Maybe our 'partnership' involved agreeing a fee a long time in advance to allow us to spend the money up front without inflating purchase prices of replacement players and, when both sides were ready to announce the deal, not buggering each other around on price or even reneging on the deal? The whole 'Real are upset with delays' may of course have been ****e spouted to keep their supporters happy that nothing had been announced. They obviously put the stage up early which may have ****ed off Levy, but who knows what goes on behind the scenes?

We have lost a world-class player from a team without whom looked fairly ordinary last season and replaced him with replacements who may all be 'inferior' to Bale individually , but who improve the overall team from ordinary to who knows what? Who's to say that any one of these young new players won't be worth £50M-£100M in a few years also? Bale certainly didn't look a €100M player in his first few games.
 
Is this true? Partnership ending stuff! It is the Express though...

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...attempt-to-block-Mesut-Ozil-s-move-to-Arsenal

Spurs chief Daniel Levy failed with late attempt to block Mesut Ozil's move to Arsenal
TOTTENHAM chairman Daniel Levy called Real Madrid president Florentino Perez yesterday in a bid to stop him selling Mesut Ozil to Arsenal, it has been revealed.

Reports in Spain suggest that Levy appealed to the partnership between the two clubs agreed as part of the Luka Modric transfer to try and stop Perez selling Ozil to Spurs' north London rival.

According to El Confidencial Levy felt "betrayed" by news that Ozil would be allowed to leave for the Gunners after enquiring about the player's availability during July and August, potentially as part of the Gareth Bale transfer.

At that time Perez told Levy that Ozil was not for sale with the player expected to remain at the Bernabeu, but the German international reportedly became increasingly as the transfer window drew to a close enabling Arsenal to snap him up.

On receiving the call from Levy, Perez reportedly politely informed the Spurs boss that a deal sending Ozil to Arsenal was all but complete.

The news is sure to put further strain on the relationship between Real and Tottenham after Levy delayed Gareth Bale's move to Spain until he could bring in replacements, amidst rumours that the club had become infuriated with the way Real had conducted their business.

Sky Sports news also claimed last week that Levy had a role in preventing a Madrid player joining Arsenal ahead of the north London derby, played last weekend.
 
Real Madrid will have been negotiating the Ozil transfer to the Arrse whilst they were talking to us about selling Bale to them.
£42.5m deals do not get done in a couple of days . Levy and our team were either told about the ongoing Ozil deal or they weren't. I suspect they weren't. Real Madrid have funded their purchase of Bale by selling Ozil to our neighbour and rival.

Would be interesting to know the payment terms for both deals.
 
I wouldn't expect a business relationship between two companies to have any bearing on either of the companies dealings outside of the the relationship
 
http://metro.co.uk/2013/09/04/totte...rategic-partnership-with-real-madrid-3949675/

Tottenham fans revolt to demand end to strategic partnership with Real Madrid

A Tottenham supporters’ group has set up an online petition demanding an end to the club’s ‘strategic partnership’ with Real Madrid.

Spurs chairman Daniel Levy presided over the world-record sale of Gareth Bale to Madrid this summer and last year sanctioned Luka Modric’s £33m Bernabeu switch.

Despite the clubs’ supposed special relationship, however, an alleged plea from Levy to Real president Florentino Perez to call off Mesut Ozil’s transfer to Spurs’ local rivals Arsenal fell on deaf ears.

And now the Tottenham Hotspur Supporters’ Trust (THST) have now concluded that the partnership only benefits the Spanish giants.

A statement from the fans’ group on their petition page reads: ‘Real Madrid CF have taken advantage of our club through the “strategic partnership” that we agreed to. They have taken our 2 top players for the past 2 years, sold a top player to our biggest rival and the partnership has been one sided. They have been duplicit in their dealings with us and we, the fans believe that this partnership should be terminated.’
 
nelto said:
Is this true? Partnership ending stuff! It is the Express though...

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...attempt-to-block-Mesut-Ozil-s-move-to-Arsenal

Spurs chief Daniel Levy failed with late attempt to block Mesut Ozil's move to Arsenal
TOTTENHAM chairman Daniel Levy called Real Madrid president Florentino Perez yesterday in a bid to stop him selling Mesut Ozil to Arsenal, it has been revealed.

Reports in Spain suggest that Levy appealed to the partnership between the two clubs agreed as part of the Luka Modric transfer to try and stop Perez selling Ozil to Spurs' north London rival.

According to El Confidencial Levy felt "betrayed" by news that Ozil would be allowed to leave for the Gunners after enquiring about the player's availability during July and August, potentially as part of the Gareth Bale transfer.

At that time Perez told Levy that Ozil was not for sale with the player expected to remain at the Bernabeu, but the German international reportedly became increasingly as the transfer window drew to a close enabling Arsenal to snap him up.

On receiving the call from Levy, Perez reportedly politely informed the Spurs boss that a deal sending Ozil to Arsenal was all but complete.

The news is sure to put further strain on the relationship between Real and Tottenham after Levy delayed Gareth Bale's move to Spain until he could bring in replacements, amidst rumours that the club had become infuriated with the way Real had conducted their business.

Sky Sports news also claimed last week that Levy had a role in preventing a Madrid player joining Arsenal ahead of the north London derby, played last weekend.
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i don't believe this at all- this is business, its all about money. we extracted full value from real, now we expect Real to be out bitch? Get real !
 
nelto said:
And now the Tottenham Hotspur Supporters’ Trust (THST) have now concluded that the partnership only benefits the Spanish giants.

A statement from the fans’ group on their petition page reads...
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Isn't the petition to the THST, rather than by them?
 
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