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Transfer speculation

glasgowspur said:
I know a couple of Mancs, real ones, not from Surrey, and rumour is they have no real interest in rose. It's all just a destabilising ploy and pay back for rebuffing them on dier.Rose has been dumb enough to fall for it.
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Things really don't work like this in football.... It is a bit like the 'smokescreen' nonsense that sometimes gets spouted.
 
DubaiSpur said:
Sanchez is very highly rated - a fast, ball-playing, athletic centre-back for whom the sky's the limit, in terms of potential. But he's also right-footed - and his profile is such that he'll probably expect a starting place straight away (otherwise, no reason to move to us from Ajax - he's talented enough to just make the jump up to Barca or somewhere straight away in 2019 or so, provided he keeps developing).

It's interesting. If we get him, it isn't because he'd replace Wimmer - he would probably start for us in the RCB slot that Dier currently occupies. Which subsequently begs the question, where does Dier go?
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To the bench.
 
DubaiSpur said:
Sanchez is very highly rated - a fast, ball-playing, athletic centre-back for whom the sky's the limit, in terms of potential. But he's also right-footed - and his profile is such that he'll probably expect a starting place straight away (otherwise, no reason to move to us from Ajax - he's talented enough to just make the jump up to Barca or somewhere straight away in 2019 or so, provided he keeps developing).

It's interesting. If we get him, it isn't because he'd replace Wimmer - he would probably start for us in the RCB slot that Dier currently occupies. Which subsequently begs the question, where does Dier go?
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We're a bit beyond having one player per position especially as we might play 60 games next year. There's enough game time for Sanchez, Dier and Wimmer
 
AdamB said:
We're a bit beyond having one player per position especially as we might play 60 games next year. There's enough game time for Sanchez, Dier and Wimmer
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Also if we are precious about not buying players who might relegate a current first team starter to the bench then we will never improve enough to win the league. ANY player that we can sign who could start for us is one that we should go all out for. Those sorts of players are few and far between and most will be out of our price range both in terms of transfer fee and wages.
 
But what is he Pape Cheikh Diop aka PCD going to be like on a wet Wednesday at Stoke?

Or is a bit presumptuous to start asking these incisive fan type rubbish questions?
 
Finney Is Back said:
To the bench.
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Don't think he'd be particularly happy with that, though - going from being linked with United to riding the bench through no real fault of his own.

AdamB said:
We're a bit beyond having one player per position especially as we might play 60 games next year. There's enough game time for Sanchez, Dier and Wimmer
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I agree, we need the depth. I'd be very happy with this if it comes off - just wondering where we fit Dier into this, and how we replace Wimmer (if that indeed is our plan) given that Sanchez is a right-footer.
 
Barcelona are turning their attention to Tottenham and Denmark attacking midfielder Christian Eriksen, 25, because of Liverpool's refusal to sell 25-year-old playmaker Philippe Coutinho. (Independent)

Liverpool priced Brazil international Coutinho at 150m euros (£136.5m) during negotiations this week. (Daily Record)

Borussia Dortmund and France forward Ousmane Dembele remains Barcelona's top target, with the Spanish side set to return with an improved 140m euro (£127m) bid for the 20-year-old. (AS)

If Barcelona fail to sign Dembele or Coutinho, they could pursue 28-year-old Inter Milan and Croatia winger Ivan Perisic, who is a long-term target for Manchester United. (Sport Italia via Football Italia)

Paris St-Germain midfielder Angel di Maria, 29, has emerged as a surprise target for Barcelona as they seek to replace Neymar following his move to the French club. (Sport)

PSG have offered 18-year-old forward Kylian Mbappe an annual salary of 18m euros (£16.4m) over five years to convince him to leave Monaco. (L'Equipe - in French)

Mbappe is keen on a move to PSG but no deal has been reached and the transfer may not happen this summer. (ESPN)

Real Madrid have ended their interest in Mbappe and could turn to Chelsea and Belgium attacking midfielder Eden Hazard, 26. (Don Balon via Daily Star)

Chelsea have yet to return with an improved bid for Leicester midfielder Danny Drinkwater, 27, after the Foxes rejected a £15m offer earlier this summer. (Telegraph)

Midfielder Jack Colback, 27, is set to leave Saudi Sportswashing Machine after a training ground row with boss Rafael Benitez. (Daily Mail)

Tottenham are in talks to sign Ajax centre-back Davinson Sanchez, 21, for £35m. (Mirror)

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Real Madrid and Spain midfielder Isco, 25, now has a release clause of 700m euros (£637m) after signing a four-year deal with the option of a further season. (AS)

Burnley will submit a £15m bid to sign Leeds and New Zealand striker Chris Wood, 25, to replace Andre Gray, who left for Watford this week. (Sun)

Leeds have rejected a £12m offer - believed to be from Burnley - for Wood. (Yorkshire Evening Post)

Leeds have lined up Hamburg striker Pierre-Michel Lasogga, 25, as a possible replacement for Wood. (Bild - in German)

Real Madrid have ended their interest in Chelsea goalkeeper Thibaut Courtois, 25, and Manchester United counterpart David de Gea, 26. (Don Balon via Express)

Swansea will offer £20m for former midfielder Joe Allen, 27, despite Stoke saying the Wales international is not for sale. (Mirror)

Saudi Sportswashing Machine owner Mike Ashley says he cannot compete financially with the top Premier League clubs so cannot give manager Rafael Benitez enough money to spend in the transfer window. (Sky Sports)

French side Nantes, managed by former Leicester boss Claudio Ranieri, want to take 19-year-old Arsenal midfielder Jeff Reine-Adelaide on loan. (L'Equipe - in French)

Roma director of football Monchi says the Italian club will not increase their £32m offer for Leicester winger Riyad Mahrez. (Sun)

Tottenham have made an approach for 20-year-old Celta Vigo midfielder Pape Cheikh Diop, but face competition from French side Lyon. (Daily Mail)

West Ham have reached a verbal agreement with Sporting Lisbon and Portugal midfielder William Carvalho, 25, over a proposed move. (Diario de Noticias via Talksport)

West Brom boss Tony Pulis believes the club will soon have five new signings to add to their squad. (Times - subscription required)

Manchester United are close to completing the signing of 19-year-old Oliveirense striker Bruno Amorim, according to the Portuguese club's director Antonio Jose Leite. (Noticias ao Minuto via Daily Express)
 

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DubaiSpur said:
Don't think he'd be particularly happy with that, though - going from being linked with United to riding the bench through no real fault of his own.
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Isn't competition for places making players raise their game what we want and what we need to make the next step?
 
DubaiSpur said:
Don't think he'd be particularly happy with that, though - going from being linked with United to riding the bench through no real fault of his own.

I agree, we need the depth. I'd be very happy with this if it comes off - just wondering where we fit Dier into this, and how we replace Wimmer (if that indeed is our plan) given that Sanchez is a right-footer.
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Then he works harder in training, plays better on the pitch, retains his place and the other fella's on the bench instead. Either way the club wins.

Keeping Dier (or anyone) happy is not the clubs primary aim, winning matches and titles is. Rose spoke about the competition that him and Walker had pushing them to perform even better. Let's have that same story across all positions.
 
milo said:
Isn't competition for places making players raise their game what we want and what we need to make the next step?
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I read the same from Danny in the sun recently. Players like competition, especially big name players.
 
Gazza said:
I read the same from Danny in the sun recently. Players like competition, especially big name players.
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It's just excuses to get what they Want, one of walkers reasons for leaving was rotation with trippier. What's the point in competition for places when you bitch you can't get every game.
And why then ask for a move to a bigger club with even resources and less chance for a game.
It's about cold hard cash, nothing more, nothing less. I think a lot of people would accept it and move on much quicker if the players just admitted it.
 
glasgowspur said:
It's just excuses to get what they Want, one of walkers reasons for leaving was rotation with trippier. What's the point in competition for places when you bitch you can't get every game.
And why then ask for a move to a bigger club with even resources and less chance for a game.
It's about cold hard cash, nothing more, nothing less. I think a lot of people would accept it and move on much quicker if the players just admitted it.
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it was a tongue in cheek comment left your sense of humour in your kilt? But i do get your point :D
 
glasgowspur said:
It's just excuses to get what they Want, one of walkers reasons for leaving was rotation with trippier. What's the point in competition for places when you bitch you can't get every game.
And why then ask for a move to a bigger club with even resources and less chance for a game.
It's about cold hard cash, nothing more, nothing less. I think a lot of people would accept it and move on much quicker if the players just admitted it.
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Walker's (real) reason for leaving is between 2 and 3 times his old salary to play for a team who I think are the bookmakers tip for the title.
 
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