I admit to having laughed a little bit about this Grealish-person back then. Not so much now.
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Tottenham vs Manchester United OMT
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Finney Is Back
Andy Thompson
Indeed, it needed a ‘painful rebuild’.
Finney Is Back
Andy Thompson
Decline’s tend to happen when you don’t try to make a single improvement. If you stand still in this league then you go backwards.
Finney Is Back
Andy Thompson
And guess what?.... A very good one had been lined up, only for us to either for months and then fail to get him.
Two windows worth of inactivity was damaging. Who’d have thought it.
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
What's amusing is that some of us saw this coming even back in 2018, as it was happening. Yet people kept insisting, forcefully and vividly, that it was actually Poch's choice to sign nobody and persevere with a stale squad for as long as he did.
Ironically, Levy has probably spent far more on the past two years of flailing around trying to make up for the neglect and patchwork squad than he would have if he'd just backed Poch in 2018.
Penny-wish, pound-foolish - the ENIC story. Sigh.
Finney Is Back
Andy Thompson
Interesting though that Ole allows both to be on the pitch and be lax in their defensive work, which helps,them have players ahead of the ball to make it easier to mount attacks... the opposite of our horribly defensive minded manager.
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
TBF they were very defensive first half
They had a McTominay and a CB man marking Kane (who still won the ball most times)
From what I saw today ... Jose is just biding his time before the boot
United haven’t improved under ole. Everyone else looks worse which has elevated them
If they actually had a top guy in charge and a few better players they wouldn’t fall behind in all these away games and would be more comfortable
Not that it affects us of course
Lo Celso had a good first half. Wasnt here second half. That was also when Pogba stepped up (the two aren’t related), but also Pogba should have been off for that elbow on serge
Poch saw it coming. It’s a tough one really . What he has done for the club is amazing stadium etc can’t knock him for that. But there’s clear failings from football standpoint.
Levy will always polarise fans.
How accurate it is I don’t know but saw a stat other day that our net spend has been lower than Bournemouth whilst in their Premier League years.
Finney Is Back
Andy Thompson
Yes but Fernandes and Pogba are both given reasonably free roles.... look how much space Aurier got in the first half as Ole does not force Pogba to track him. Contrast that with how deep our wide forwards have to go.
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
True
Aurier really had an odd game today
I thought he okayed really well
Yet both the first goals came with him getting stuck neither committing to the man or obviously handing him off to Dier. And on the first Dier didn’t do anything at all which was worse
Thought Pogba was the X factor today. He was far superior to Penandes. Ole allows them to play. But we also allowed it in second half. Thought we were fine first 40 minutes
If I try, I can see Levy's point of view. And he was fooled. Like Modric, Eriksen made other players around him look better than what they were, in addition to own contribution. The problem with those players aren't what they are, it's what they are not. We know that now. So I'm guessing he didn't see the imminent need to improve or replace. I wasn't around in the 50's and 60's so I might be wrong, but making expensive additions in our best and most consistant run in history was maybe deemed less important than securing a new stadium. And at the time, quite a few fans agreed with him.
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
I’ll add that the first half was odd generally
They had no shots on target
We had 20% more possession and looked too comfortable
Robspur12
Nick Barmby
A team that contains of Lloris Kane, Son, Ndombele, Holbjerg, Lo Celso Bale Moura Reguillon with Lamela, Vinicius in reserve should be doing better. I think Aurier is pretty decent too. Dele can also be pretty good too. Mourinho hasn't been good enough by any stretch of the imagination this season. I am surprised you are giving him such an easy ride given some of your posts about the performance of the previous manager.
I've gained nearly 30 pounds from eating Ole Gunnar-flavoured humble pies. Not only does he let his players do what they do best as you say, even if it doesn't always work out, but he has also proven that he can harness the worst of primadonnas. Not drawing a direct parallell, but what if Mourinho could salvage, say, Alli the same way Solskjær has salvaged the wreck that was Pogba?
Only one exception to that is Lingard. But other than that. He’s doing ok especially as he’s got a few donkeys in that squad.
I'm not following Solskjær outside having every major newspaper in Norway reporting what he eats and how much he sh*ts every single day, but as I see it at least he's not trying to be something he's not. He's not riding his past. He has also learned from arguably the best and most scary man manager ever. And even though it's taken time to implement his version while being backed by the board, he's looking well on track and they've gone back to winning games they play like donkeys. Football is always in motion and nothing is certain, but if he can secure a player like Haaland in the summer, he's in for the long haul.