braineclipse
Willie Hall
I'm not saying he won't be an asset, just that for him to successfully compensate for a lack of target man on the pitch he has to change from last season.
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The Left Side
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I'm not saying he won't be an asset, just that for him to successfully compensate for a lack of target man on the pitch he has to change from last season.
Maybe, although did we actually play a way to allow for him to be a threat in the box last season ie crosses into the box? I think we could improve in that area from the right hand side, Eriksen is the only one I can recall putting in decent crosses and they would come from the left...
braineclipse
Willie Hall
Way more to being a target man than just attacking crosses in the box.
What we lacked without Ade under AVB was someone to aim long balls at that could win headers and hold the ball up. As a result we got very predictable and easier to defend against (imo).
When Chadli did play he was often the one we did aim long balls towards, I thought he did rather poorly given his size with those. From what I remember he kept losing out or not challenging even against players he looked big enough to dominate.
braineclipse
Willie Hall
Full backs pushing high up the pitch and a central defender dropping in between the centre backs like most teams that play with "inverted wingers" do it?
Ok fair enough, I dont recollect what youre referring to but I do agree he could step up the physical side. Lets see how it goes this year...
vkn17
Peter Taylor
Didn't AVB try to do exactly that and failed?
braineclipse
Willie Hall
Not really.
We had two central midfielders more or less holding, but none who regularly stepped in between the central defenders either to make up the numbers for attacking full backs or to dictate play.
To the extent that our full backs pushed high up the pitch they did so with little success. We have already brought in a new left back that I think is a lot more comfortable on the ball.
Also, even if it was the case, just because AVB tried something and it failed doesn't make it a bad idea.
He was a left winger but had just started flourishing in the centre.
At least you lot don't pick the team jeez lol!! Erikssen on the left is as pointless as Bale on the right - something some were up for as well I remember!!
braineclipse
Willie Hall
One of the people thinking that Bale on the right is a good idea seems to be Carlo Ancelotti and Real paid us a world record fee for Bale to play him on the right.
No kind of argumentation for why Eriksen is so unsuitable to playing on the left then?
Craig_J
Eidur Gudjohnsen
Lamela left and Eriksen off the striker is the way I see it.
At this moment in time my team would be:
Lloris
Walker
Chirches
Vertonghen
Davies
Sandro
Bentelab
Lennon/ Townsend
Erikkson
Lamela
Soldado/ Ade
Similar to an AVB formation but with us actually going for it rather than dingdonging about hoping the oppositions goal gets chalked off suddenly.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
No one has used crosses for years (except dinosaur Moyes).
Do you remember any successful team at the WC who didn't have inverted wingers?
Can you think of a top level wide player who isn't inverted (other than Lennon)? Lamela, Townsend, Chadli - all the players we are linked with for LWF - Griezmann, Depay, Kono - are all inverted
Roland Beurre
Peter Taylor
Oddly enough, I watched the World Cup final again last night ...
Was that a cross from which the winning goal was scored or just a pass from out wide?
He can do a job there. Bale can do a job on the right. However, it's not their strongest position IMO. Bale on the right for us was, on the whole, ineffective. Why is he pulling up trees now on the right for Madrid?
Kingdawson
Banned
Eriksen 100%.
braineclipse
Willie Hall
I get that it's your opinion. My question was if you have some kind of argumentation or reasoning behind it.
Bale was ineffective on the right for us because of the system, style of play and limited time playing on the right. And that he wasn't played as far forward on the right. For me this illustrates that one should be careful about making strong conclusions about which positions are right for young talented footballers.
Superhudd
Simon Davies
agree, played well I thought. particularly vs Benfica
You're wrong but that's just my opinion. Take VDV. Christian is a carbon copy of him IMO and I wouldn't want VDV out on the left. It's all opinions but I drink every Thursday with a group of 11 season ticket holders who can't understand why anyone would want him played on the left wing and they go home and away so see the play a lot closer than me.
Play him there if we're short yes but get someone in. For me a winger takes on his man, whips the ball into the edge of the six yard box for the number 9 to slot home and that isn't Eriksen.
Eriksen on the left to me is the same concept as Modric on the left.
Your main playmaker, who is physically small and adapting to a league (and maturing as a player), out left he is less exposed defensively, has freedom to drift in as attacker.
Eventually Eriksen will be in the middle, but it completely makes sense why he's out left now.