Quacks & Pseudoscience

[braineclipse]

I'm starting to believe some of this stuff, I'm afraid to say. Watching the Netflix documentary (by madman Steven Greer, admittedly) 'Unacknowledged' - only a lot of witness observations and accounts, but the massive amounts of them, from highly ranked people too. Would it be totally improbable that there are more advanced lifeforms and technologies out there? Certainly not, judging by what we know about the universe. Is it completely unheard of that these other lifeforms have used a more advanced technology to "visit" earth? How could you say a definite no? Is it probable that there are covert operations by governments out there to keep information about stuff like this hidden from the public? I guess you could argue fairly well for it.

The amount of observations really isn't a good indication of the truth value of the claim being made.

The UFO narrative is plausible up to a point. If they wanted to visit us and keep it a secret that's certainly plausible. Them messing up in a way that only allows the current UFO proponents to spot them isn't plausible to me. Whenever the story changes into a grand conspiracy with thousands of people needed to keep the secret I struggle to believe it.

 

[braineclipse]

Cars can run on water, the cost of the battery (hydrogen cell?) is what is the problem.

I remember a Top Gear from years ago where May was test driving a car with it.

Cars can run on hydrogen. The only waste product is water.

If we could find a hydrogen mine hydrogen could be used as a fuel source. I don't think we will find that. As it is hydrogen plays the role of a battery or electricity. We can create hydrogen, store it and use it for fuel. But we need energy to create hydrogen. Hydrogen might end up being a better and more effective fuel storage than batteries or other options, but right now it doesn't seem to be winning out.

 

[Baleforce]

While I enjoyed the first part of the 'Unacknowledged' movie, it gets into wooly conspiracy territory in part two - free energy and cars running on water, the government seizing new energy source patents etc. Kind of takes the juice out of the whole thing. I still find the UFO sightings quite fascinating though, but it might just be less of a cover operation than Greer will have you believe.

that’s @Gutter Boy ‘s brexit britain isn’t it?

;-)

 

[Bullet]

Cars can run on hydrogen. The only waste product is water.

If we could find a hydrogen mine hydrogen could be used as a fuel source. I don't think we will find that. As it is hydrogen plays the role of a battery or electricity. We can create hydrogen, store it and use it for fuel. But we need energy to create hydrogen. Hydrogen might end up being a better and more effective fuel storage than batteries or other options, but right now it doesn't seem to be winning out.

Talking of fuel... the average speed nowadays is terrible.

Sitting in traffic the other day, I was thinking that once Skype is improved to 4kHD quality with VR headsets, we can all just work from home and negate a massive number of car journeys and office space

 

[scaramanga]

Talking of fuel... the average speed nowadays is terrible.

Sitting in traffic the other day, I was thinking that once Skype is improved to 4kHD quality with VR headsets, we can all just work from home and negate a massive number of car journeys and office space

It would have to really improve a very long way to be as useful as looking somebody in the eye and gauging their reactions.

VR also has a fairly limited field of view - currently if I'm looking ahead in a meeting and the person to my right is fidgeting, I can see it. VR wouldn't allow that without turning my head.

More lanes would work. More lanes and some stretches like the M6 toll - let the school run fudges sit in traffic while the commuters move.

Traffic could also be massively improved by making people who are just hopping on for a junction or two stay in the inside lane. That would have to be done with technology though and there's already too much of that on motorways.

 

[r-u-s-x]

Talking of fuel... the average speed nowadays is terrible.

Sitting in traffic the other day, I was thinking that once Skype is improved to 4kHD quality with VR headsets, we can all just work from home and negate a massive number of car journeys and office space

No need for me to be in the office now 80% of the time but still frowned on to work from home more than a couple of days a month, it's a change in culture that is most needed.

 

[milo]

37 dead as measles cases spike in Europe

https://globalnews.ca/news/4397490/measles-europe

 

[markysimmo]

Have been reading a lot about these and the good effects to health they can have

Anybody on the board taking them either in a tincture or gel tablet form

 

[Grays_1890]

A mate of mine take the oil and swears by it?

 

[scaramanga]

What health effects are you after from it?

 

[parklane1]

Its good for pain relief.

 

[ShipOfTheseus]

The tablets are probably a more effective placebo than the oil.

 

[scaramanga]

Its good for pain relief.

THC is. These have no active ingredients.

 

[90291Spur]

The tablets are probably a more effective placebo than the oil.

https://www.canabomedicalclinic.com/5-health-benefits-cbd-oils/

THC/CBD will probably never be considered to have 'proper' medical benefits as they most likely won't past muster for double blind clinical trials (which in most cases only require approximately 60% 'success' rate). But when my wife was having nausea from chemo and suffering horrific side effects from the chemo AND the anti-nauseas meds her doctor told her that marijuana was not clinically proven to help. She used it and it did help. As have many thousands of others. I have had much success with acupuncture, which also has not been deemed medically beneficial by the health industry.

 

[ShipOfTheseus]

I have had much success with acupuncture, which also has not been deemed medically beneficial by the health industry.

Oh, please. The jury may still be out on whether there’s some limited therapeutic benefit in CBD oil, but acupuncture is straightforwardly pseudoscientific woo.

Much success!
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[90291Spur]

Oh, please. The jury may still be out on whether there’s some limited therapeutic benefit in CBD oil, but acupuncture is straightforwardly pseudoscientific woo.

Much success!
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Thanks. I've had a ton of success with acupuncture for many years as have thousands of others too for centuries

Remember too that non-pseudo science is based on paradigm theory and changes over time. For example, science used to say that the earth was the centre of the universe and was also flat. Science also said that the drug Thalidomide was the perfect safe drug to help pregnant women with morning sickness.

 

[Bullet]

Acupuncture works because you believe it works, it is placebo. You enjoy the attention and your body perceives the benefit.

 

[90291Spur]

Acupuncture works because you believe it works, it is placebo. You enjoy the attention and your body perceives the benefit.

Much like the little red number on the upper right hand side of this forum when you have a like or a reply?

 

[Danishfurniturelover]

Thanks. I've had a ton of success with acupuncture for many years as have thousands of others too for centuries

Remember too that non-pseudo science is based on paradigm theory and changes over time. For example, science used to say that the earth was the centre of the universe and was also flat. Science also said that the drug Thalidomide was the perfect safe drug to help pregnant women with morning sickness.

I to have had success with Acupuncture, it is proven for pain relief actually and is still available on the NHS my Osteopath in Hove actually uses it in the NHS he is a consultant in London and works down in Hove at the weekend, this is an actual NHS doctor.

The issue with Acupuncture in the NHS is whether it cures or solves issues. For example I have lower back issues from time to time and it is proven to take down swelling, it will not solve the back issues, that is done through repetitve exercises designed to strengthen the back.

Anyone in this neck of the words who needs help just give me a PM and I will happily give you the guys name and the clinic he works out of.

 

[ShipOfTheseus]

Shocking that the NHS wastes money on this gonads, but then again placebo therapy really is quite cheap. And maybe it encourages people to do helpful stuff as well, such as the back exercises described above.