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Quacks & Pseudoscience

milo said:
Like you, I am inclined to not care what people spend their own money on. I do think though that it is wrong for public health systems, like the NHS, to spend money on things that are unproven. I also think that unproven remedies should not be sold in chemists alongside medicine because it gives them unearned authencity/credibility.
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I don't disagree with any of that.
 
milo said:
And tighter controls/enforcement on claims made in advertising, promo literature, etc
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I'd hope that's already the case, but I suppose there will always be someone on the internet who says "acupuncture cured my aids" or some b0ll0cks.
 
You know when a player approaches the pitch, spins 180 degrees, touches the floor, points at Jesus and GHod in the sky, hops backwards and chants Kabbadi as he runs on the pitch?

That.
 
There's obviously a big difference between vaccine denial and people getting a useful placebo effect from something with no active ingredients.

In both there's a similar problem in that solid scientific findings aren't being communicated well enough, research funding is mostly profit driven, and that flawed and bogus research is easy to do and publicise. The consequences of that range from the benign and even somewhat helpful placebo effects to the deadly and even civilization threatening (climate science denial).

For me there is no solution to the deadly and horrifying consequences that don't tackle the underlying issues. And thus also is by it's nature critical of the relatively benign.

If my teeth hurt I go to the dentist. If I need my car fixed I go to a mechanic. I will not get my car repairs at my dentist any more than I will get my teeth fixed by my mechanic. For scientific questions the consensus of experts in the scientific field really is what should be listened to. Not a single scientist, not some random person's anecdotal experience, not someone selling a product. Until that is widely accepted there will be serious problems that will seem impossible to solve.
 
ricky2tricky4city said:
QUOTE="milo, post: 1165551, member: 122"]
https://twitter.com/x/status/1104384158233706502
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Whose had their regular 10 year tetanus booster??[/QUOTE]

They last for life now dont they?

Well that is what they told me last time I went to A&E when I had a bad crash off my bicycle and cuts and bruises and a sprain, asked them about a booster and they said they were a life time. Unless they dont think I have long left.
 
Seedy Ron said:
"No longer funded" rather implies it once was.
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Up until 2017 it was freely available on NHS in England

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/homeopathy/
In 2017 NHS England said it would no longer fund homeopathy on the NHS as the lack of any evidence for its effectiveness did not justify the cost. This was backed by a High Court judgement in 2018.
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But some GPs are still prescribing it

https://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/news/c...et-to-be-blacklisted-under-nhs-england-plans/
NHS England has said it is going to ‘formally request’ that the Government ban GPs from prescribing homeopathy.
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And some quacks think it can cure COVID-19

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...s-ties-over-homeopathic-covid-cures-t9lztglcl
Middlesex University is cutting its ties with the UK’s biggest provider of homeopathy training after it peddled vaccine misinformation and encouraged the use of potions made with phlegm to protect against and treat Covid-19.
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I have a friend who believes in and read tarot cards. And I have another friend who believes in that brick. Friend 1 has now convinced friend 2 to not buy a house after all because according to his fudging cards the house is haunted. I've been wanting to send them both messages, but my wife won't let me, because if I do I might upset some equilibrium which might eventually lead to friend 2 not moving away from the area we live in (we want them to stay). They're very good people, but they believe in a lot of weird brick.
 
Maybe you need to delete "not" in your post Daisuk? Else it makes no sense.

I think you need to tell these braindead macarons that star signs and tarot cards and tea leaves and palm reading is all far, far less believable than flat earthers.
 
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