Seedy Ron
Jimmy Neighbour
Were you whistling the opening bars while typing?
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Politics, politics, politics
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Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
I was thinking Harold Macmillan, more than Bob Dylan. But either work
milo
Jack L. Jones
milo
Jack L. Jones
Parklaner81
Steve Hodge
and I was thinking the Scorpions! Plenty to choose from...
They should go to the polls, maybe we could sack the phucking lot of them.
Gilzeantoscore
Justin Edinburgh
This is what happens when you elect a government wholly comprised of free market neo-liberals. None of them have had an original idea in their lives. To them, all you have to do, is sit back and let the 'free market' do it's thing. Simples! A bunch of self entitled, born to rule nonentities.
Even though I disagree fundamentally with their politics, the issue with this current mob is competency as much as anything. May has shown herself to be a weak leader and poor political strategist and she is the boss of a cabinet which can't manage to do things like not watch porn on the works computer, not touch people up, not open their mouths and potentially worsen someones legal plight or not lie about breaking the ministerial code when caught breaking it. She can't even get the sackings right. Useless.
And that's before you get on to the handling of Brexit negotiations, which have started badly and have now progressed to debating the release of documents that are supposed to exist but now probably don't -- up there with "the dog ate my homework."
A complete shower.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
A bit of irony is that Fallon and Patel were probably two of the most competent ones
I think the low salaries might have something to do with it. £74k is really just a middle management salary. Hopefully when Brexit destroys financial services, more talent will be attracted to public service again.
It needs to be at least doubled if they expect to get anyone good in the South.
monkeybarry
Jack Jull
The alternatives don't look great though.
Unless people voted on the individual MPs abilities and created mass coalition with no whip, it will just be same brick, different coat.
It will "feel" different for a few years until it unravels again.
monkeybarry
Jack Jull
The money will go to protecting financial services - we are screwed without it
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
I agree with the first part, but not the second
Financial services will be saved, because the Tories are in the pockets of the banks
But financial services only make up about 10% of the economy, and not only are they the tail that wags the dog that is the rest of the economy, they actually work contrary to the interests of the other 90%. Will Hutton the economist is good on this, but basically they profit from risk and uncertainty, so operate against industrial strategies that are planned to serve societies. Throw financial services under the Brexit bus, and the country becomes a much better place.
Penny Mordaunt is a good appointment. Maybe she'll use fewer expletives next time she's asked about a cabinet appointment!
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
I don't know much about her, but it's positive that the Brexit and gender balance in cabinet has been maintained
For a while she was deputy "Minister for the Today programme" which is the kind of skill that this government is in desperate need of.
She's quite sharp for an MP, certainly good on a local level. I don't think she nearly has the flat out intellect needed to take the very top job, but she has a grasp of economics and is very personable - about as much as one can expect from a modern Conservative.
SpurMeUp
Les Howe
All u need to know
Meanwhile May wants to pass a bill to ensure Brexit happens on time...will the UK have what’s needed in place in time!?
I really don’t envy the current Government and Ministers. They have a Herculean task without a strong mandate. How can they deliver something better for the uk as promised? No good saying ‘we are just delivering Brexit’. They need to deliver a UK that’s better out than in.
We need a new Customs Ministry, new Trade experts, new regulators for Ari Travel, Medicine etc etc what will be their cost and how long will they take to be up and running? We need a new border system and customs in Ireland. We need to have our legal systems ready for he transition, will EU rulings still stand post Brexit? Or will they need to be retested in a UK court? We need to ensure industry has labour to function short term: people to pick fruit etc. We need to ensure farmers have a workable system post EU Common Agriculture Policy. And no doubt a tonne of other things too even before we venture out to try and setup trade deals with non-eu nations.
Furthermore the access to the single market negotiations will result in some loss to UK trade. We may get some trade opportunities that will take years to realise outside the EU. Or we might get worse non-Eu trade deals because we only bring 50m consumers to the table.
In the meantime our Single Market position has to suffer in one form or another: payments to access the single market that are worse than now/ loss of UK regulatory control so we can’t input into the terms of global trade anymore / or the introduction of tariffs on imports and exports. WTO tariffs would kill the car industry overnight. Possibly derail UK financial services too. And I should imagine would raise costs of anything imported from the EU: food etc. But maybe we will trade with Russia instead.
What happens if we don’t have an EU trade deal in place by the Brexit date? What if the only deal on the table is crap for the UK, what do we do? About 43% of our exports of goods and services go to the EU.
If May can even make Brexit happen she will be deserving of a medal. The task in of its self is gigantic. Regardless of the merits or otherwise of Brexit, logistically, it will be a miracle if May pulls it off and it’s not a big belly flop.
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Gilzeantoscore
Justin Edinburgh
Related to one of the worst class traitors of all time in British politics.