Fair enough. Personally I find the idea of the whole country getting a kick up the ass quite refreshing!
Thats fine. I maintain there was a genuine threat that the EU didnt take seriously, but theres little point exhausting the topic.
Overal position? Kind of "meh" really.
On the spectrum of Remain <-----> Leave I guess Im more leave, but Im not especially passionate about it.
I am quite euro sceptic, I dont really like the idea of a european superstate, and I think thats obviously where things are heading.
That said, I love Europe. Its beautiful, and fascinating. Its an amazing place.
Ideally we end up as a close family friend rather than sibling. Close relations, trade and a co-operative sensibility would suit me fine. While not being bound by the growing EU state.
I actually voted remain. Mostly because I have no faith in our politicians to make the most of the situation, not because I was committed to staying. I think leaving could be a huge opportunity for the UK, but I also think if you can rely on someone to fudge it up it will be our government - whichever party is in power.
So now its a reality Im looking at it a bit more holistically. Short term will be rough. Longer term I really think it could lead to some REAL politics again. Which in turn can lead to real and meaningful change. Which is quite an exciting prospect.
It's interesting how many remain voters, myself included, who are actually ok with leaving, just with different caveats. The bit in bold is the key really -- a lot depends on just how rough the short term is, indeed how "short" that period is too. The long term is a bit vague, as we don't really know what's going to happen; as someone said "in the long term, we're all dead."
I think we are showing in this thread that it is possible to see both sides of Brexit, debate and disagree in a reasonable way. It's a shame the referendum could not have been conducted in a similar fashion, but with the media in this country that's practically impossible. Either BBC establishment toads or the likes of The Daily Mail going for hysterics.