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I want people to have to work for their money, none of these scroungers living of the hardwork of others even if it was their parents 100 % inheritance tax after £5m. [emoji57]
I want people to have to work for their money but I don't think the government should be able to take money that's already been taxed. I also believe people should have the right to do what they wish with their money once a reasonable amount of tax has been paid on it.
 
I was only Joking re 100% inheritance tax, - Main technical issue would be in a free market how do you stop capital flight.

(Only thing I am inheriting from my Dad is his weak bladder).
 
I was only Joking re 100% inheritance tax, - Main technical issue would be in a free market how do you stop capital flight.

(Only thing I am inheriting from my Dad is his weak bladder).

Well we have actually looked into trying to get our money out the country, so when the time comes our son can get the benefit of his parents hard work. I have paid enough tax and when i die it will go mainly to him, the lifeboat association and parkinsons reseach.

Australia does not have inheritance tax i believe, worth switching our rental flat to one out there.
 
Well we have actually looked into trying to get our money out the country, so when the time comes our son can get the benefit of his parents hard work. I have paid enough tax and when i die it will go mainly to him, the lifeboat association and parkinsons reseach.

Australia does not have inheritance tax i believe, worth switching our rental flat to one out there.

Have you looked into trust funds? That's how the rich tend to fiddle it.
 
Have you looked into trust funds? That's how the rich tend to fiddle it.
Not in any real depth yet. It is something we are going to though.

I can not believe anyone thinks inheritance tax is fair. You pay in all your life so your last wish whether it is the cats home or family should stand. Do not like one rule for one and another rule for others.
 
Not in any real depth yet. It is something we are going to though.

I can not believe anyone thinks inheritance tax is fair. You pay in all your life so your last wish whether it is the cats home or family should stand. Do not like one rule for one and another rule for others.

I think it's fair, if we have a society that we judge winners and losers on wealth letting it accumulate over generations seems extremely unfair. It's like having a race where some have a Ferrari at the start and others are walking then having a go at the walkers at the back for being lazy.

I know it's emotive and would not try to change anyone else's opinion on it but I would have it starting higher but being more (if you could work out how to stop loopholes and outflows). Your kids are looked after but will still have to do something to get along in life.
 
Not in any real depth yet. It is something we are going to though.

I can not believe anyone thinks inheritance tax is fair. You pay in all your life so your last wish whether it is the cats home or family should stand. Do not like one rule for one and another rule for others.

Now this I agree with.

Taxed on earnings and savings. Stamp duty, VAT, pensions all taxed. Capital gains.

Maybe I'm naive but to be taxed again to leave something to the next of kin seems unfair to me.
 
I think ending the jurisdiction of the ECJ and freedom of movement are red lines for anyone who supports Brexit. The primacy of your laws and being able to control your borders are two fundamental aspects of being a sovereign state. The EU insisting the ECJ should still apply here after 2019 is like Britain saying our laws should still apply to people of British origin in the colonies.

Davies and Johnson are clearly more liberal/global than May. But that's about things like post-exit decisions on migration, not the principles of regaining sovereignty first.
 
I think ending the jurisdiction of the ECJ and freedom of movement are red lines for anyone who supports Brexit. The primacy of your laws and being able to control your borders are two fundamental aspects of being a sovereign state. The EU insisting the ECJ should still apply here after 2019 is like Britain saying our laws should still apply to people of British origin in the colonies.

Davies and Johnson are clearly more liberal/global than May. But that's about things like post-exit decisions on migration, not the principles of regaining sovereignty first.


My thoughts as well, its funny how some do not want red lines on certain things but are happy to see them on other things. May has been told by all and sundry on many occasions that she should guarantee all those from the EC countries who are now in Britain should be told NOW that they have nothing to worry about after we leave, is that not a red line to some?
 
My thoughts as well, its funny how some do not want red lines on certain things but are happy to see them on other things. May has been told by all and sundry on many occasions that she should guarantee all those from the EC countries who are now in Britain should be told NOW that they have nothing to worry about after we leave, is that not a red line to some?

Agreed, also she wanted to negoiate that earlier but it was the EU who did not want to talk about a bilateral agreement which could have been sorted out months ago.

Despite not liking the current tory party, I have to say I am still alarmed by some of Corbyns supporters and also their use of fake news during the election campaign is alarming and similar to that of Trump in the US.
 
Agreed, also she wanted to negoiate that earlier but it was the EU who did not want to talk about a bilateral agreement which could have been sorted out months ago.

I never understood the stick she received over this - as you quite rightly point out, it was the EU that refused to do this sooner, not her. Where was the corresponding criticism of them? Nor did I get why all of those calling for her to unilaterally guarantee the rights of EU citizens in this country weren't called out in stronger terms for their willingness to leave British citizens entirely at the mercy of the EU (though she did belatedly nail Corbyn for this at PMQ's last week).
 
Interesting Survation poll...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/02/remain-would-win-brexit-referendum-held-now/

Selected highlights include:

"The Survation survey showed a clear majority of Britons (54%) would vote to Remain in the European Union if another referendum was held while 46% would back Brexit."

and

"... a majority (36%) said the best outcome would be to stop exit talks altogether and work to stay in the EU, while around a third (32%) backed paying a fee for access to the tariff-free customs union."

and

"Less than a quarter (24%) support the Government's current strategy of leaving the customs union in order to strike free trade deals with other countries..."
 
Interesting Survation poll...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/02/remain-would-win-brexit-referendum-held-now/

Selected highlights include:

"The Survation survey showed a clear majority of Britons (54%) would vote to Remain in the European Union if another referendum was held while 46% would back Brexit."

and

"... a majority (36%) said the best outcome would be to stop exit talks altogether and work to stay in the EU, while around a third (32%) backed paying a fee for access to the tariff-free customs union."

and

"Less than a quarter (24%) support the Government's current strategy of leaving the customs union in order to strike free trade deals with other countries..."


I wonder if this one is closer to the result then the one they did before the brexit vote.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/survation-leave-fails-to-make-up-ground-2016-5?r=UK&IR=T
 
Interesting Survation poll...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/02/remain-would-win-brexit-referendum-held-now/

Selected highlights include:

"The Survation survey showed a clear majority of Britons (54%) would vote to Remain in the European Union if another referendum was held while 46% would back Brexit."

and

"... a majority (36%) said the best outcome would be to stop exit talks altogether and work to stay in the EU, while around a third (32%) backed paying a fee for access to the tariff-free customs union."

and

"Less than a quarter (24%) support the Government's current strategy of leaving the customs union in order to strike free trade deals with other countries..."
As with all voluntary surveys, you have to consider the motivation of those agreeing to take the survey.

I'd imagine there's a huge chunk of people feeling hard done by who want to be heard.
 
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